Gibbs' take on Campbell's situation

GusFrerotte · 06-25-2009, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Skins4L

i like the response. I hope Campbell hears this.

Would be nice if he did, but the thing is damage was done regardless. I know some of the Brennan folks and other want JC to get benched or not resigned if we falter this year, but JC might just decide to take off and land himself with a contender if we do fall by the wayside. People can forgive Skins4L, but they usually don't forget, meaning JC just might use the Cutler/Sanchez drama as an excuse to jump ship if he feels the franchise isn't going anywhere. Let's face it, the FO hasn't really done anything lately to give him help. No real positive picks or FA pickups for the O line(except Dockery, and that isn't so great of an upgrade), a real shaky WR corp(Moss, plus a bunch of unproven scrubs), and of course the Cutler/Sanchez trade dramas. To be honest, if I was JC and jerked around like I have, with a team that really has lots of holes in it, if I am lucky to survive the season I would really consider bolting if the season ended up being another disappointment. I mean JC is at the point in his career where he will want to position himself on a solid contender. He has his $$$$$$$$$ already.

SkinDogg · 06-26-2009, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

Well with Gibbs 2 our O struggled and with Zorn last year our O struggled so I'm not sure what Gibbs could help him with there.

you're kidding, right?

DCtoAZ · 06-26-2009, 02:36 AM

Gibbs meeting with Zorn .. nothing wrong with that in my mind .. it's been an odd off season, but the more I think about how JC handled himself I really do believe the 10' season is going to be strong .. i'm crossing my fingers for 10-6 !

Angry · 06-26-2009, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Would be nice if he did, but the thing is damage was done regardless. I know some of the Brennan folks and other want JC to get benched or not resigned if we falter this year, but JC might just decide to take off and land himself with a contender if we do fall by the wayside. People can forgive Skins4L, but they usually don't forget, meaning JC just might use the Cutler/Sanchez drama as an excuse to jump ship if he feels the franchise isn't going anywhere. Let's face it, the FO hasn't really done anything lately to give him help. No real positive picks or FA pickups for the O line(except Dockery, and that isn't so great of an upgrade), a real shaky WR corp(Moss, plus a bunch of unproven scrubs), and of course the Cutler/Sanchez trade dramas. To be honest, if I was JC and jerked around like I have, with a team that really has lots of holes in it, if I am lucky to survive the season I would really consider bolting if the season ended up being another disappointment. I mean JC is at the point in his career where he will want to position himself on a solid contender. He has his $$$$$$$$$ already.

I would have to disagree with two points here. First, the reality is that starting QB jobs are at a premium for QB's of JC's talent. In fact there are several former starting QB's that are either jobless or backups who have posted better numbers than JC. Secondly, JC may be at the end of his rookie contract and he may have made more money than you or I in the past few years, but the fact of the matter is that he is one of the lowest paid starting QB's in the league. Unless he has a monster season, no franchise, the Redskins or otherwise is going to give him the typical payday for an above average starting QB.

Just to throw some food for thought out there, I doubt that there is any type of serious interest out there for a QB like Jason Campbell. In both the Cutler and Sanchez attempts the FO was trying to unload JC on the other team as part of the trade bait. This may be irrelevant, but I find it funny that the only time that Vinny and Danny failed to make the blockbuster trade was when they tried to get rid of JC in the process.

My theory is that if he does not have a stellar year, then he will either be a backup or out of the league by 2010. Even if he does have a fairly good season his only shot at a big payday might be with Washington. At this time he has no leverage; he can only play football and prove himself.

schndr_tdd · 06-26-2009, 10:18 AM

Right on the mark with CUTLER,hes a BABY!!!!

CRedskinsRule · 06-26-2009, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Angry

My theory is that if he does not have a stellar year, then he will either be a backup or out of the league by 2010. Even if he does have a fairly good season his only shot at a big payday might be with Washington. At this time he has no leverage; he can only play football and prove himself.

Regardless of his year JC will be in the league for years to come, unless he decides to stop. Remember-Patrick Ramsey is still on a team, Minnesota may bring Favre in. JC, short of a imploding 2009 will have plenty of opportunities to try a new environment.

That said, I would be shocked if he doesn't light up the NFL this year. (I am really hoping that Romo, Sanchez and Cutler all flop - yes you can call me petty)

Mattyk · 06-26-2009, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Regardless of his year JC will be in the league for years to come, unless he decides to stop. Remember-Patrick Ramsey is still on a team, Minnesota may bring Favre in. JC, short of a imploding 2009 will have plenty of opportunities to try a new environment.

That said, I would be shocked if he doesn't light up the NFL this year. (I am really hoping that Romo, Sanchez and Cutler all flop - yes you can call me petty)

Yeah I really doubt he would be out of the league next year even if he has a bad 2009 season (which I highly doubt would happen anyway). There are plenty of mediocre to flat out bad QBs still earning a paycheck out there.

Angry · 06-26-2009, 11:45 AM

I think that you guys are misinterpreting what I said. I said he would either be a backup or out of the league. Maybe I should have said that he will not be a starter after 2010...that was my intent.

Edit: Unless he has a great season, which I don't see happening. Good, maybe, great, no.

Mattyk · 06-26-2009, 11:46 AM

Guess I'm still not getting it but why would he be out of the league altogether?

Angry · 06-26-2009, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Guess I'm still not getting it but why would he be out of the league altogether?

It was a figure of speech meaning that the only way that he will have a job in the NFL is as a backup.

Mattyk · 06-26-2009, 11:55 AM

I guess there are a lot of guys out of the league right now then huh

Lotus · 06-26-2009, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Regardless of his year JC will be in the league for years to come, unless he decides to stop. Remember-Patrick Ramsey is still on a team, Minnesota may bring Favre in. JC, short of a imploding 2009 will have plenty of opportunities to try a new environment.

That said, I would be shocked if he doesn't light up the NFL this year. (I am really hoping that Romo, Sanchez and Cutler all flop - yes you can call me petty)

I'm not going to call you petty. I agree. Especially Romo. I hope he's so bad that they bring in Kitna.

As for Sanchez, he's a rook, and most rooks not named Matt Ryan have a tough first year. As for Cutler, I think he'll be missing Brandon Marshall and Eddie Royal.

I share your optimism about Campbell. I don't expect Drew Brees but I do expect a QB who will move the chains and, when necessary, carry the team on his back.

GusFrerotte · 06-26-2009, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Angry

I would have to disagree with two points here. First, the reality is that starting QB jobs are at a premium for QB's of JC's talent. In fact there are several former starting QB's that are either jobless or backups who have posted better numbers than JC. Secondly, JC may be at the end of his rookie contract and he may have made more money than you or I in the past few years, but the fact of the matter is that he is one of the lowest paid starting QB's in the league. Unless he has a monster season, no franchise, the Redskins or otherwise is going to give him the typical payday for an above average starting QB.

Just to throw some food for thought out there, I doubt that there is any type of serious interest out there for a QB like Jason Campbell. In both the Cutler and Sanchez attempts the FO was trying to unload JC on the other team as part of the trade bait. This may be irrelevant, but I find it funny that the only time that Vinny and Danny failed to make the blockbuster trade was when they tried to get rid of JC in the process.

My theory is that if he does not have a stellar year, then he will either be a backup or out of the league by 2010. Even if he does have a fairly good season his only shot at a big payday might be with Washington. At this time he has no leverage; he can only play football and prove himself.

No, he is a good QB with not much to work with. He has his flaws of course, but that is only half the problem. Crappy WRs and an always banged up line spells trouble in the NFL and the NFC East. Last season he ranked 13th in passing even with such a crappy supporting cast minus CP and Moss. Think of the potential if he had a solid line and decent WRs. Believe me if Gus Frerotte could land a starting QB gig in 2008, I am sure a younger JC could land one anywhere if he told the Skins to take a hike. He could easily vye for at least a dozen starting jobs upon leaving the Skins.

GusFrerotte · 06-26-2009, 07:07 PM

Also you have at least what, a half a dozen starters go down at some point in the season? JC could land a starting job easily.

GusFrerotte · 06-26-2009, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DCtoAZ

Gibbs meeting with Zorn .. nothing wrong with that in my mind .. it's been an odd off season, but the more I think about how JC handled himself I really do believe the 10' season is going to be strong .. i'm crossing my fingers for 10-6 !

Not sure how JC handling the situation really is going to impact an increase in point production. And besides nobody but JC really knows how he feels about the situation. Anybody could put up a good front, just look at our FO.

06-26-2009, 02:36 AM	#33 (permalink)
DCtoAZ Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Posts: 161	Re: Gibbs' take on Campbell's situation Gibbs meeting with Zorn .. nothing wrong with that in my mind .. it's been an odd off season, but the more I think about how JC handled himself I really do believe the 10' season is going to be strong .. i'm crossing my fingers for 10-6 ! __________________ " F*CK THE DALLAS JUMBO TRON "

06-26-2009, 10:18 AM	#35 (permalink)
schndr_tdd Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: West Virginia Posts: 93	Re: Gibbs' take on Campbell's situation Right on the mark with CUTLER,hes a BABY!!!!

06-26-2009, 11:45 AM	#38 (permalink)
Angry Purple Headed Yogurt Slinger Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Source Posts: 4,872	Re: Gibbs' take on Campbell's situation I think that you guys are misinterpreting what I said. I said he would either be a backup or out of the league. Maybe I should have said that he will not be a starter after 2010...that was my intent. Edit: Unless he has a great season, which I don't see happening. Good, maybe, great, no. __________________ If I had a catch phrase I'm sure that it would be offensive.

06-26-2009, 11:46 AM	#39 (permalink)
Mattyk how you like me now Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 44,468	Re: Gibbs' take on Campbell's situation Guess I'm still not getting it but why would he be out of the league altogether? __________________ WP VIP \| WP Shop \| Follow the WP on Twitter, Facebook, and on your phone with the Tapatalk app

06-26-2009, 11:55 AM	#41 (permalink)
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06-26-2009, 07:07 PM	#44 (permalink)
GusFrerotte The Starter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Detroit area Posts: 2,121	Re: Gibbs' take on Campbell's situation Also you have at least what, a half a dozen starters go down at some point in the season? JC could land a starting job easily.

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