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Old 07-21-2009, 03:01 PM   #31
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LaVar's theory is that maybe she waited a year because the economy was better a year ago and maybe she lost a roommate. uh... I think my head may have just exploded...
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Old 07-21-2009, 03:29 PM   #32
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Whereas in criminal court the prosecution must prove guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, in civil trials you usually only have to prove your case by a preponderance of the evidence (i.e., the evidence weighs in your favor). So, a rape victim might very reasonably conclude that she does not want to go through an emotional trial if the prosecution is likely to lose, but she can hit him where it hurts (i.e., the wallet).

Again, I don't know her or her motivations. I just don't think people should automatically assume that a woman who claims to have been raped and sues is some greedy whore. Is that unreasonable?
What if this was just a regular Joe who makes 60k a year? She wouldn't file a civil suit. She would've went to the cops. That's why this is just so shady. A millionare rapes me, I wait a full year and then file a civil suit. I'm not buying it.
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Old 07-21-2009, 03:35 PM   #33
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What if this was just a regular Joe who makes 60k a year? She wouldn't file a civil suit. She would've went to the cops. That's why this is just so shady. A millionare rapes me, I wait a full year and then file a civil suit. I'm not buying it.
I'm not sure I agree. People file civil suits against "average Joes" for battery, sexual assault, etc., you just don't hear about it because they're "average Joes." Moreover, many of those suits are filed well after the incident giving rise to the suit took place. That's why in many jurisdictions, you have several years to bring this kind of suit. To say that anyone who files a civil suit against anyone making any kind of money 6 months or more after the incident took place is a liar, whore, con artist, etc. isn't really reasonable IMO.
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Old 07-21-2009, 03:51 PM   #34
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A year later, no police report, no criminal complaint, a history of mental instability. Good luck.

The funnier thing about the PFT reporting is that they are spending more time complaining that ESPN hasn't reported than reporting the damn story. If you have a legitimate, strong story you don't want or need any other news organizations backing you up or running the story also. You want to stand alone, again if it's a legitimate story.
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Old 07-21-2009, 03:53 PM   #35
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I'm not sure I agree. People file civil suits against "average Joes" for battery, sexual assault, etc., you just don't hear about it because they're "average Joes." Moreover, many of those suits are filed well after the incident giving rise to the suit took place. That's why in many jurisdictions, you have several years to bring this kind of suit. To say that anyone who files a civil suit against anyone making any kind of money 6 months or more after the incident took place is a liar, whore, con artist, etc. isn't really reasonable IMO.
Well people lie all the time to get money out of wealthy people. It goes both ways. Could he have done it? Anything is possible. But some things are less possible. If a good looking guy that's very wealthy/famous and has hot girlfriends needs to rape an average looking girl that's a head case then that's something he has to live with. It comes down to her word against his.
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Old 07-21-2009, 04:24 PM   #36
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Heres are some pics of the accuser....

Ben Roethlisberger's Accuser | Celebrity Photos | TMZ.com

I think Big Ben's off the hook.
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Well people lie all the time to get money out of wealthy people. It goes both ways. Could he have done it? Anything is possible. But some things are less possible. If a good looking guy that's very wealthy/famous and has hot girlfriends needs to rape an average looking girl that's a head case then that's something he has to live with. It comes down to her word against his.
Wow, that was F'ing stupid.
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Did you hear about the lawyer with diarrhea? He thought he was melting.
Never heard that one. If you were locked in a room with Hitler, Charles Manson, and a lawyer, and you had a gun with 2 bullets, who would you shoot? The lawyer. Twice, to make sure he's dead.
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It sounds like Ben's been riding the hog again without his helmet.
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Old 07-21-2009, 06:04 PM   #40
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In my opinion, it's pretty reckless to automatically conclude this woman is a lying, greedy [expletive]. Is there a chance she is lyign and just trying to get money and/or revenge? Yes. Is there a chance she is telling the truth? Yes.

I've known at least one woman who was sexually assaulted who went back and forth about contacting police. It was a very emotional experience for her and I understand why she didn't immediately go to police.

Again, I'm not saying she is telling the truth, I am just saying we shouldn't pass judgment based on an article or two we read in the press.
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I agree with you 100%. I have had a friend who was assaulted as well and it is not always an easy thing to admit. However there are some women out there who also do cry wolf in hopes to make a few bucks. It is a travesty that the actions of a few ruin it, or make it harder for those who are truly going through something like this.

I really hope this did not happen, I like Ben and think he is an upstanding guy.
Time will tell and the truth will be revealed.
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Old 07-21-2009, 06:07 PM   #41
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Well people lie all the time to get money out of wealthy people. It goes both ways. Could he have done it? Anything is possible. But some things are less possible. If a good looking guy that's very wealthy/famous and has hot girlfriends needs to rape an average looking girl that's a head case then that's something he has to live with. It comes down to her word against his.
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You're talking about a guy that can probably get any women he wants. Why would someone like HIM rape someone like her? It makes no sense. He has too much to lose. Yeah sure it's possible, but like I said some things are LESS possible. Plus there is no criminal case, apparently no evidence and it's a year later. Sorry but I'm not giving this women the benefit of the doubt. Not yet.
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Old 07-21-2009, 07:56 PM   #43
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Wow, that was F'ing stupid.
No...it's probably the truth.
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Old 07-21-2009, 08:13 PM   #44
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You're talking about a guy that can probably get any women he wants. Why would someone like HIM rape someone like her? It makes no sense. He has too much to lose. Yeah sure it's possible, but like I said some things are LESS possible. Plus there is no criminal case, apparently no evidence and it's a year later. Sorry but I'm not giving this women the benefit of the doubt. Not yet.
There are rules to rape? I wasn't aware of this.
All you guys that are instantly discrediting this woman for no reason other than it's a year later and it's not a criminal suit should understand that rape is rape. How she goes about finding justice, is her choice.
For the record, I am not saying he's guilty, nor am I saying she is guilty of making something up. Let the evidence speak for itself and shame on a lot of you for even discarding this allegation even though you know NOTHING about EITHER of them. The evidence will hopefully come out, and who knows, maybe Ben has done this before, and others will then come forward. It could just be an overzealous ex-employee or fling...no one knows yet.
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Old 07-21-2009, 08:43 PM   #45
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Maybe Ben found her attractive. While her face is not something I would say is pretty, some others may think otherwise or simply not care.

I care more about the tapes in the hotel room and their current state of existence in Florio's summary of her complaint. If they are indeed found and the incident did take place, then sorry Big Ben...
If not, then she's the one full of baloney.
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