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Old 07-26-2009, 09:26 AM   #16
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Re: Are the Skins too focused on defense?

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Can you imagine our defense if we still had Sean today?
I think about that every day. WOW now that would have been something to see.

I think DF was the way to go OL would of been great but it is what it is their were no good free agents out there. We now have a young DF that should dominate for years to come.
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Old 07-26-2009, 09:32 AM   #17
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Can you imagine our defense if we still had Sean today?
I imagine it all the time. It's hard not to.
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Old 07-26-2009, 11:35 AM   #18
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Re: Are the Skins too focused on defense?

I doubt that the FO made a consensus decision to build the D. maybe the thinking was to bring in the best talent they could ? We spent a lot on the off. side of the ball the past few years ,,, young qb's JC/ Colt ,, wr's R.EL , Thomas/Kelly and TE's Cooley, Davis . Hopefully Heyer , Rinehart improve this year and either Williams / Bridges can step up if needed . I see this team only needing OL and SLB in the near future , maybe a DE , but I think that Orakpo and Jarmom are both going to be very good DE's down the road . Our DB's might be the best in the NFL and Hall is the " oldest " starter , 5 years in the NFL . I would say we are much better off than we were the day before the draft in April . WR, Thomas and TE Davis will have big years , R El will make some big plays , and we will dominate at times on Def and ...... ELI " you better buckle up that chinstrap son " its gonna be a long day for you
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Old 07-26-2009, 11:53 AM   #19
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I doubt that the FO made a consensus decision to build the D. maybe the thinking was to bring in the best talent they could ? We spent a lot on the off. side of the ball the past few years ,,, young qb's JC/ Colt ,, wr's R.EL , Thomas/Kelly and TE's Cooley, Davis . Hopefully Heyer , Rinehart improve this year and either Williams / Bridges can step up if needed . I see this team only needing OL and SLB in the near future , maybe a DE , but I think that Orakpo and Jarmom are both going to be very good DE's down the road . Our DB's might be the best in the NFL and Hall is the " oldest " starter , 5 years in the NFL . I would say we are much better off than we were the day before the draft in April . WR, Thomas and TE Davis will have big years , R El will make some big plays , and we will dominate at times on Def and ...... ELI " you better buckle up that chinstrap son " its gonna be a long day for you
I wholeheartedly agree and want to add that if our young guys do play up to potential we have every reason to believe that we will be in contention for years to come. I think we simply have to be patient and let the building process come to fruition, with this year showing us the firstfruits of the FO decisions.
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Re: Are the Skins too focused on defense?

Improvements to the offense came last year, and there obviously needs to be a further development of JC and from Zorn as the OC.
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Old 07-26-2009, 01:18 PM   #21
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Re: Are the Skins too focused on defense?

I cant believe this is even a topic, alot of ppl on here say if our defense had done more and got more turnovers we would have done more on offense. They bring up the top defenses like that of the Steelers. Well guys im sure there are 31 other teams in the league who also wished they had a defense like the Steelers. the Steelers D didnt happen overnight, look at the high picks and $$ that went into forming that defense.
Bottomline, to be in the elite category on either Offense or Defense you have to make the big investments. Hopefully our investments like AH and RAK pay off.
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Old 07-26-2009, 03:29 PM   #22
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With out reading.....Defense wins Championships.

If we can get turn overs then we are set. Then get like 2 TD's extra per game then we will win most of our games.
great defense will beat a great offense every time.i like the focus on making the defense better but the 3 and outs were killing us last year
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Old 07-26-2009, 07:45 PM   #23
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great defense will beat a great offense every time.i like the focus on making the defense better but the 3 and outs were killing us last year
The '06 Colts and Bears may dispute that claim about offense vs. defense.

3 and outs didn't kill us last year, not being able to convert long drives into TD and missing FG killed us. We had plenty of scoring oportunities but we have to do a better job of converting them into TD.

We focused on offense, almost exclusively in '08, we focused on defense, almost exclusively in '09.
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Old 07-26-2009, 07:52 PM   #24
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I'm not sure why Golston hasn't played some RDE instead of the team banking on Daniels and re-signing Wynn and using a 2010 3rd round pick in the supplemental draft on a player similiar to the style of play of both of them. We'll just have to wait and see what happens.

I think you mean LDE.
Lorenzo Alexander has been working at LDE during mini-camp and OTAs he has a similiar skill set to Daniels/Evans.
Golston is a good DT and imo it wouldn't make sense to move him to LDE or RDE.
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Old 07-26-2009, 07:59 PM   #25
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No.

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Old 07-26-2009, 09:28 PM   #26
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Old 07-26-2009, 10:40 PM   #27
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Take what you can get, best available. Now we've stacked our defense and it should be AMAZING for the next decade. Our entire defense is YOUNG and many key players are signed for long-term contracts. Dominating defenses can keep you in most games (Steelers, Ravens come to mind).

Now, we can slowly fortify our offense (ie. OL) for the next several years with draft picks and free agents. Even if our offense sputters this year, I feel like they've set us up to be a great team for the next decade.

Hail.
Agreed.. I don't think we really focused on defense too much, after all, we took Devin Thomas, Malcom Kelly and Fred Davis last year.. If we didn't took those players, then this question could make great argument.. Wait until next 2010 draft, and see what the FO does.. If we draft defense player, then it's pretty much clear that we are focusing on defense all the way.. But if we are actually focusing on defense too much, it's not like as if there's something wrong with that.. Even though, we need younger and better OL men.. I was a big supporter of drafting an OT such as Oher, but I'm not complaining with Orakpo pick (nor even with Jarmon pick, as well).. I just hope Redskins will pick an OT next year w/ our #1 pick..

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Old 07-26-2009, 11:26 PM   #28
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Turn overs are great, but sounds like one big giant excuse to me. The defense has a job of not letting the other team score. They do pretty damn well with that goal. Maybe we should ask the offense to pull their weight. Defense gets easier to play as the game goes on and you're a) winning. b) forcing them to throw.

So yes, we'll win most of our games if we have a top5 defense and score 30PPG....

Come on people, think just a little bit. This team needs to be at 21PPG to be competitive. Hopefully we can do that.
Agreed! You can talk turnovers or sacks or any other defensive statistic from last year, if the offense scores 21ppg and doesn't kill momentum with three and outs and long unproductive drives that team could have been dangerous. I expect that kind of improvement from the offense this year and I believe this team will be in contention come playoff time.
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Old 07-26-2009, 11:34 PM   #29
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Re: Are the Skins too focused on defense?

I don't think anyone on this board would argue that our offense doesn't need to get better. From JC right on down. Actually from the offensive playcalling right on down. I just find it harder to believe that we won't get better than to believe we will.
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Old 07-26-2009, 11:56 PM   #30
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Well Zorn was never a OC -as we all know- so it was his first yr calling plays. so a learning curve is expected on his part. I believe he will get better. And hey who knows, maybe this is the yr that JC proves me wrong.
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