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Old 07-31-2009, 08:09 PM   #31
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Re: Samuels: Campbell has 6-7 games to prove himself (radio quote)

yea buchanon that's what I was thinking also
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Old 07-31-2009, 10:15 PM   #32
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ho hum. the skins are always linked to anyone that looks some what attractive. show me some proof
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Old 07-31-2009, 10:23 PM   #33
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Okay, so the "momentum" allegedly building is evidenced by a Redskin coach mentioning that several members of the coaching staff wouldn't mind having him on the team. What a stupidly misleading headline.

By the way, the headline has now been changed on the site to add Baltimore to the mix.
Nevertheless, it is disappointing to hear any coach on the skins wouldn't mind having him on the team.

On a separate note, I'm not a Campbell supporter, but I believe him to be a better QB than Vick. Vick can run, he can do things that Campbell cannot, but Vick is not a good QB. In addition, it is important for a team to support its QB, and whether or not Campbell is right for the team, if he is deemed to be the QB for the Redskins, it is entirely out of bounds for any assistant coach to make any comments that can be in anyway misconstrued as supporting the idea of a QB change.
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Nevertheless, it is disappointing to hear any coach on the skins wouldn't mind having him on the team.

On a separate note, I'm not a Campbell supporter, but I believe him to be a better QB than Vick. Vick can run, he can do things that Campbell cannot, but Vick is not a good QB. In addition, it is important for a team to support its QB, and whether or not Campbell is right for the team, if he is deemed to be the QB for the Redskins, it is entirely out of bounds for any assistant coach to make any comments that can be in anyway misconstrued as supporting the idea of a QB change.
Any team that gets Vick is going to get him at the league minumum for a player with his tenure. He'll be a situational player... not a threat to any credible starting QB. Even if, by chance, he were to land with the Sninz, he is no threat to JC. Jizzle Cizzle will get every opportunity to succeed. It's his team for now.
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Old 07-31-2009, 11:08 PM   #35
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Re: Samuels: Campbell has 6-7 games to prove himself (radio quote)

We are Still learning the WCO i dont want to see us go all wildcat just to get one guy on the field.
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Old 08-01-2009, 10:52 AM   #36
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Re: Samuels: Campbell has 6-7 games to prove himself (radio quote)

I believe JC did everything he needed to do for us to be successful last year.Could he have done more???Maybe.Even with holes in the o line,he still got the ball to recievers,who would drop the ball at the most inopportune time in just about every game.
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Old 08-03-2009, 10:33 AM   #37
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Chris Samuels needs to focus on doing his job better. The reason Jason Campbell is on a short leash, is because he spent too much time getting sacked. If Samuels and his fellow offensive linemen, took it upon themselves to do something about that, the quarterback controversy would cease. Most quarterbacks, given ample pass protection, get the job done. Campbell is not exception. When he has time and the receivers get separation, he delivers. Everyone on this offense needs to do a better job, coaches included.
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Old 08-03-2009, 10:41 AM   #38
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Re: Samuels: Campbell has 6-7 games to prove himself (radio quote)

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Old 08-03-2009, 10:43 AM   #39
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Old 08-03-2009, 11:39 AM   #40
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Sorry but JC causes a bunch of those sacks by holding onto the ball and he often follows one WR and misses the guy wide open.
I don't know many quarterbacks that can have a 62.3% completion percentage, and often miss wide open receivers in the same season. I could throw out an equally ridiculous statement and say that Redskins receivers often drop balls that are thrown directly to them.

As far as Samuels' comment; it's not overly shocking to believe that he'd be yanked in the middle of the season if the team is performing poorly. The main problem with that is, if Collins is named the #2, it's basically a give up move.

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Does JC hold the ball too long at times, sure. But the OL was clearly the primary problem down the stretch last year.
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Does JC hold the ball too long at times, sure. But the OL was clearly the primary problem down the stretch last year.

This is spot on. I would add also that in the second half of the year the running game kind of came to a halt. Many would probably agree as well that part of the problem with the running game is when you can only effectively run to one side most defense in the NFL will be able to stop you after a while and studying tape. I would agree that if the offensive line gives Campbell time to throw it will only make him more effective, but I would also add that if the offensive line actually allows the team to run to the other side more effectively than it will make us that much more difficult to defend - if we don't teams will simply stack the side we do run to and our offense will be average.
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I think his % is up because he throws so many dump off passes that gain just a few yards.
I do not think you have been watching the same games I've watched. Campbell was very efficient and productive in the first half of the season. He had a very good run game and the play calling caught other teams off guard. In the second half of the season, a few things happened. The scheduled got tougher and the Skins faced division opponents the second time around and the plays that worked the first time around were ineffective. The running game stalled and put more pressure was put on the passing game. Campbell had only two reliable targets, Moss and Cooley. Defenses like the Cowboys, Eagles, Giants and Steelers exploited the lack of weapons and the pass protection broke down. To come down completely on Campbell is unfair. He can make improvements, but the entire offense and scheme needs to improve. Bringing in a scrub like Cutler, Sanchez or even Vick is not going to fix the problem.
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ho hum. the skins are always linked to anyone that looks some what attractive. show me some proof
Exactly, plus, Coach Cohwer would never want Vick trying to throw to Chad Johnson. We need to stick with a QB with more accuracy since Ocho Cinco has lost a step for us. He's not as fast as he was when we traded for him.
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Re: Samuels: Campbell has 6-7 games to prove himself (radio quote)

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I think his % is up because he throws so many dump off passes that gain just a few yards.
I think you're just guessing at that.

It's not true, at least in the sense that you mean. Campbell completed way fewer passes down the field in the second half of the year, but he actually didn't try less. He was just less successful.

Also, his completion percentage did drop by 2.5% over the second eight games, suggesting that the lack of success enjoyed on those deep passes was the reason for the decline.

Anyone who saw the last two games realizes that JC developed a (perhaps unhealthy) gunslinger tendency. Yeah, we were already out of it at that point, and the results produced only a middling passing game, but it's a step in the right direction.
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