Warpath  

Home | Forums | Salary Cap Info | Shop | Donate | Stay Connected




Go Back   Warpath > Redskins Forums > Redskins Locker Room


Samuels: Campbell has 6-7 games to prove himself (radio quote)

Redskins Locker Room


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-03-2009, 12:34 PM   #46
Registered User
 
firstdown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: chesapeake, va
Age: 50
Posts: 15,818
Re: Samuels: Campbell has 6-7 games to prove himself (radio quote)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Southpaw View Post
I don't know many quarterbacks that can have a 62.3% completion percentage, and often miss wide open receivers in the same season. I could throw out an equally ridiculous statement and say that Redskins receivers often drop balls that are thrown directly to them.

As far as Samuels' comment; it's not overly shocking to believe that he'd be yanked in the middle of the season if the team is performing poorly. The main problem with that is, if Collins is named the #2, it's basically a give up move.
I think his % is up because he throws so many dump off passes that gain just a few yards.
firstdown is offline   Reply With Quote

Advertisements
Old 08-03-2009, 01:19 PM   #47
Impact Rookie
 
hail_2_da_skins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: St. Louis, MO
Age: 58
Posts: 863
Re: Samuels: Campbell has 6-7 games to prove himself (radio quote)

Quote:
Originally Posted by firstdown View Post
I think his % is up because he throws so many dump off passes that gain just a few yards.
I do not think you have been watching the same games I've watched. Campbell was very efficient and productive in the first half of the season. He had a very good run game and the play calling caught other teams off guard. In the second half of the season, a few things happened. The scheduled got tougher and the Skins faced division opponents the second time around and the plays that worked the first time around were ineffective. The running game stalled and put more pressure was put on the passing game. Campbell had only two reliable targets, Moss and Cooley. Defenses like the Cowboys, Eagles, Giants and Steelers exploited the lack of weapons and the pass protection broke down. To come down completely on Campbell is unfair. He can make improvements, but the entire offense and scheme needs to improve. Bringing in a scrub like Cutler, Sanchez or even Vick is not going to fix the problem.
__________________
"HAIL TO THE SKINS"
hail_2_da_skins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2009, 02:40 PM   #48
Living Legend
 
Monkeydad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: PA
Age: 35
Posts: 16,275
Re: Samuels: Campbell has 6-7 games to prove himself (radio quote)

Quote:
Originally Posted by dmek25 View Post
ho hum. the skins are always linked to anyone that looks some what attractive. show me some proof
Exactly, plus, Coach Cohwer would never want Vick trying to throw to Chad Johnson. We need to stick with a QB with more accuracy since Ocho Cinco has lost a step for us. He's not as fast as he was when we traded for him.
__________________
Not sent from a Droid, iPhone, Blackberry or toaster
Monkeydad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2009, 03:46 PM   #49
Living Legend
 
GTripp0012's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Evanston, IL
Age: 26
Posts: 15,993
Re: Samuels: Campbell has 6-7 games to prove himself (radio quote)

Quote:
Originally Posted by firstdown View Post
I think his % is up because he throws so many dump off passes that gain just a few yards.
I think you're just guessing at that.

It's not true, at least in the sense that you mean. Campbell completed way fewer passes down the field in the second half of the year, but he actually didn't try less. He was just less successful.

Also, his completion percentage did drop by 2.5% over the second eight games, suggesting that the lack of success enjoyed on those deep passes was the reason for the decline.

Anyone who saw the last two games realizes that JC developed a (perhaps unhealthy) gunslinger tendency. Yeah, we were already out of it at that point, and the results produced only a middling passing game, but it's a step in the right direction.
__________________
according to a source with knowledge of the situation.
GTripp0012 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2009, 04:37 PM   #50
Living Legend
 
GTripp0012's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Evanston, IL
Age: 26
Posts: 15,993
Re: Samuels: Campbell has 6-7 games to prove himself (radio quote)

One thing I can do with the data I have is look only at the distance of completed pass, without the YAC. Following are Campbells longest air pass attempts--any pass that traveled 30 yards in the air or further--and the weeks they occurred in, who it was thrown at, and whether they were complete, incomplete. or intercepted.

1. 59 yards, incomplete, week one, intended for S. Moss
2. 37 yards, incomplete, week one, intended for J. Thrash
3. 32 yards, incomplete, week one, intended for S. Moss
4. 45 yards, incomplete, week two, intended for S. Moss
5. 51 yards, complete (TD), week two, S. Moss
6. 32 yards, incomplete, week three, intended for D. Thomas
7. 33 yards, incomplete, week three, intended for S. Moss
8. 33 yards, complete (TD), week three, D. Thomas (play nullified by personal foul)
9. 44 yards, complete, week four, S. Moss
10. 30 yards, illegal contact foul, week five, intended for J. Thrash
11. 37 yards, incomplete, week six, intended for A. Randle El
12. 46 yards, incomplete, week six, intended for S. Moss (pass dropped)
13. 30 yards, incomplete, week nine, intended for S. Moss
14. 37 yards, incomplete, week nine, intended for D. Thomas
15. 50 yards, incomplete, week eleven, intended for S. Moss
16. 38 yards, incomplete, week twelve, intended for S. Moss (pass dropped)
17. 32 yards, incomplete, week twelve, intended for M. Kelly
18. 55 yards, incomplete, week twelve, intended for J. Thrash
19. 38 yards, intercepted, week thirteen, intended for A. Randle El (QB hit on release)
20. 36 yards, incomplete, week fourteen, intended for S. Moss
21. 63 yards, incomplete, week fourteen, intended for S. Moss (pass marked 'thrown away')
22. 43 yards, incomplete, week sixteen, intended for S. Moss
23. 43 yards, incomplete, week seventeen, intended for A. Randle El

First half: 11 bomb attempts, 3 completions + an illegal contact penalty (league average numbers)
Second half: 11 bomb attempts, 0 completions, no penalties drawn (waste of offensive plays)

Zorn called deep passes at the same if not a more frequent rate in the second half, we just didn't complete any.
__________________
according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

Last edited by GTripp0012; 08-03-2009 at 04:46 PM.
GTripp0012 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2009, 04:45 PM   #51
Living Legend
 
GTripp0012's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Evanston, IL
Age: 26
Posts: 15,993
Re: Samuels: Campbell has 6-7 games to prove himself (radio quote)

We actually didn't have a single good result after the first Eagles game, which is when our offense actually dropped off the table. However, the Santana Moss TD against the Lions traveled 28 yards in the air, and just missed this analysis (though, against the Lions defense, anything is possible).
__________________
according to a source with knowledge of the situation.
GTripp0012 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:29 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site is not officially affiliated with the Washington Redskins or the NFL.
Page generated in 0.19427 seconds with 9 queries

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25