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Old 08-05-2009, 11:58 PM   #76
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Re: Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals

Just remember this thread with Coggs during the annual fire Eli Manning/Tom Coughlin phase that the New York sports media goes through every year in the Fall the first time the team loses.
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Old 08-05-2009, 11:58 PM   #77
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Jason Campbell? HAHAHAHAHA. I'll give you the other guys are better than Eli and I do not think he is worth that kind of money either. But, Jason Campbell? Please, he is one of the worst starting QB's in the league.
You know who didn't give their middle tier quarterback $97.5 million today?

The Redskins.

Eli will have a chance to shut me up in about 5 weeks, but right now, I'm having fun at the lack of foresight of your team.
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Old 08-06-2009, 12:02 AM   #78
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You know who didn't give their middle tier quarterback $97.5 million today?

The Redskins.

Eli will have a chance to shut me up in about 5 weeks, but right now, I'm having fun at the lack of foresight of your team.
I'm going to sell my soul to the devil and quote...(wait I just threw up in my mouth)...Mike Florio...from the miraculous Super Bowl catch, the guy who threw the ball gets 97 mil, meanwhile the guy who caught it, is in danger of being cut.
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You know who didn't give their middle tier quarterback $97.5 million today?

The Redskins.

Eli will have a chance to shut me up in about 5 weeks, but right now, I'm having fun at the lack of foresight of your team.
You tell me Gtripp. Have I lost my mind or have the GNats lost theirs? 97.5 million to Eli? The Ravens win the SB because of defense and they release their QB. The Gnats win because of defense and a couple of very FORTUNATE plays and you give Opie 97.5 million dollars? They better hope he improves....a LOT.
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This is why I love Redskins fans. Every year they come out so optimistic, and every year they crash harder and harder. The Skins will be lucky to win 5 games. The Giants D Line is going to have Campbell on his back more than a 2 dollar hooker.
As good as the Giants defense has been since 2006, you've barely kept Campbell in check. He very nearly beat you almost by himself the first two times he played you (2006 Week 17, 2007 Week 3), but got shitty performances by the defense on those days. He was injured in Week 15, 2007, but considering the whopping that the backup put on the Giants that day, there's little for you to gloat about.

The best day the Giants defense has ever had against Campbell was Week 1 of last year, and it certainly wasn't sacks or pass pressure that made the difference. Campbell was sacked by Tuck on the first play of the game, and wasn't sacked or picked the rest of the game. He was just ineffective. They got much better results in Week 13, but one deep ball INT and a subsequent 8 minute TD drive against our *No. 4* defense was the difference in that one.

In short, if Campbell is in fact one of the worst QBs in the league as you assert, the Giants defense is holier than Pineapple Jesus.
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You tell me Gtripp. Have I lost my mind or have the GNats lost theirs? 97.5 million to Eli? The Ravens win the SB because of defense and they release their QB. The Gnats win because of defense and a couple of very FORTUNATE plays and you give Opie 97.5 million dollars? They better hope he improves....a LOT.
Well, there's other factors at play here besides "the Giants think Eli is worth 16+ million a year." The truth is, on the open market, he could probably get $60-$70 million. That's still overpaying him, but the Giants paid a premium to prevent him from hitting the market after the season, which to an extent is admirable.

The cost effective way to build a better roster would be to franchise tag Eli and draft his replacement, but that probably would have created more controversy/distraction than a team in New York wanted to deal with.

Still, the Eagles weren't willing to give Donovan McNabb more than two years on a contract, and while Eli might perhaps have stronger prospect than McNabb based on his age and recent performance, if we're talking about who deserves the money, McNabb wins 10 out of 10 times.

The bottom line is that we have two factors here: 1) average to above average quarterbacking is very valuable in this league, and 2) the CBA mandates that so much money has to go to the players, and it inflates the value of mediocre players like Eli.

The Redskins don't seem to understand point #1, but at least they've yet to stick themselves in a no win situation like the Giants just did today.
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This is why I love Redskins fans. Every year they come out so optimistic, and every year they crash harder and harder. The Skins will be lucky to win 5 games. The Giants D Line is going to have Campbell on his back more than a 2 dollar hooker.
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Well, there's other factors at play here besides "the Giants think Eli is worth 16+ million a year." The truth is, on the open market, he could probably get $60-$70 million. That's still overpaying him, but the Giants paid a premium to prevent him from hitting the market after the season, which to an extent is admirable.
In contrast to this, we overpaid DeAngelo Hall to prevent him from hitting the market, and relative to his position, he's not quite as good as Eli.

But then again, we didn't overpay him by as nearly as much as the Giants did with their quarterback.
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Well if we win the SB this year, JC should make the Fortune 500.
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This is why I love Redskins fans. Every year they come out so optimistic, and every year they crash harder and harder. The Skins will be lucky to win 5 games. The Giants D Line is going to have Campbell on his back more than a 2 dollar hooker.
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I just read all six pages, and that was a lot of fun to read!! Thank you 53fan!
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You know who didn't give their middle tier quarterback $97.5 million today?

The Redskins.

Eli will have a chance to shut me up in about 5 weeks, but right now, I'm having fun at the lack of foresight of your team.
After reading the mind-numbingly stupid posts from "coggs," I was contemplating a good response. Then I read this. PWNED. Well done.

Eli and his mid-70's QB rating and putrid receiving corps can go rot. He better hope his defense is world class, because they're gonna need it with that lame group of pass catchers.

I'd like to smack Eli. Really. I'd like to walk up to him and smack him open handed in his lispy little slack jawed face, and then look him in the eye and ask him what he's going to do about it. Is that wrong? Have I had one too many single malts? SmootSmack may arrest me for PUI. <end rant>
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I hope the Redskins don't overpay JC. That being said, Sinorice Moss and Steve Smith the possession receiver don't scare me at all compared to Plax and Amani, although Moss may have an 'older brother' moment on one of the Redskin's DBs...
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Im happy as hell the Giants gave Eli that type of money. This just means the Giants will be strapped for cash to give other players. We all know Eli cant do it all on his own.
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