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Old 08-09-2009, 11:32 AM   #16
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Who cares about hang time with a place kicker though??
If he's doing kickoffs its important. That's a special teams talent that lets your guys get down field.
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Old 08-09-2009, 11:44 AM   #17
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Who cares about hang time with a place kicker though?? Just put it through the uprights.

Sorry folks but Rayner isn't winning the job.
So important in fact that Suisham was asked to adjust his technique early last season in order to get better hang time on kick-offs. He had been booting them deep, but with the low trajectory, the coverage guys weren't able to get downfield in time.

We weren't so good with opposing team field position last year IIRC.

I don't think Raymer will get the call, but Suisham was awful last year so something has to give.
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Old 08-09-2009, 11:45 AM   #18
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Gotta love this time of yr. I think the best time of yr is between Sept and April. Between April and Sept. has got to be the worst. No one can speak highly of a player they like, no one can speak negatively about a player they hate, no one can talk about players possibly getting unseated at their positions...with out getting bashed.

Reyner won't make the team. He's a camp scrubb. No other team would pick him up. All because Suish is the "Golden Boy."
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Old 08-09-2009, 12:57 PM   #19
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Gotta love this time of yr. I think the best time of yr is between Sept and April. Between April and Sept. has got to be the worst. No one can speak highly of a player they like, no one can speak negatively about a player they hate, no one can talk about players possibly getting unseated at their positions...with out getting bashed.

Reyner won't make the team. He's a camp scrubb. No other team would pick him up. All because Suish is the "Golden Boy."
Well, he is a scrub. Look at his dismal career stats or the fact he's with his 5th team in 5 years.

Not saying Suisham is anything special either, but to this point in their careers he's got the edge over Rayner.
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Old 08-09-2009, 01:11 PM   #20
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Gotta love this time of yr. I think the best time of yr is between Sept and April. Between April and Sept. has got to be the worst. No one can speak highly of a player they like, no one can speak negatively about a player they hate, no one can talk about players possibly getting unseated at their positions...with out getting bashed.

Reyner won't make the team. He's a camp scrubb. No other team would pick him up. All because Suish is the "Golden Boy."
I happen to think Rayner has a shot at unseating Suisham, but it's definitely a long-shot.

But as for your first paragraph, don't be an idiot. People here speak highly and lowly of players/coaches here all the time. Sometimes others agree, sometimes others don't. That's the whole point of a message board.
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Old 08-09-2009, 01:36 PM   #21
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I happen to think Rayner has a shot at unseating Suisham, but it's definitely a long-shot.

i agree, if rayner has a strong preseason and suisham struggles then rayner could take his spot. i think suisham always practiced well but struggled during the times it really counted.
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Old 08-09-2009, 02:49 PM   #22
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Personally think they both should be renting apartments by the week in Ashburn. Hopefully we will pick up someone else after a few cuts..
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Didn't I read that Rayner was 3 for 3 and all kicks were 50+ yds? wouldnt that be an improvement?
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So did Durant Brooks.

I'm done with hype. It's high time for production. If he makes the team great but as far as I'm concerned he's a warm body to help Suisham with his competitive focus.

Been hearing that Suisham and Rayner have been missing quite a bit.
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Old 08-09-2009, 03:43 PM   #25
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Didn't I read that Rayner was 3 for 3 and all kicks were 50+ yds? wouldnt that be an improvement?
If that were true, yes, that would be an improvement. Swishy struggles from long range.
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Old 08-09-2009, 04:46 PM   #26
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i cant believe , over the years, that the skins cant find an above average kicker. look at some of the scrubs they have trotted out over the last couple of seasons( Suisham included)
Face, it, we haven't had a solid kicker since Chip Lohmiller, whom we drafted in the 2nd round about 20 years back. Even Lohmiller struggled early in his career, which comes to show what a crapshoot it is with these guys.

Norv Turner cut David Akers after one game in the midst of an 0-7 start in 1998, which may be one of the worst cuts made by the Redskins in the last 20 years.
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Face, it, we haven't had a solid kicker since Chip Lohmiller, whom we drafted in the 2nd round about 20 years back. Even Lohmiller struggled early in his career, which comes to show what a crapshoot it is with these guys.

Norv Turner cut David Akers after one game in the midst of an 0-7 start in 1998, which may be one of the worst cuts made by the Redskins in the last 20 years.
I agree. Akers is still a fine kicker. He would have saved us from a bunch of headaches if we would have kept him.
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Face, it, we haven't had a solid kicker since Chip Lohmiller, whom we drafted in the 2nd round about 20 years back. Even Lohmiller struggled early in his career, which comes to show what a crapshoot it is with these guys.

Norv Turner cut David Akers after one game in the midst of an 0-7 start in 1998, which may be one of the worst cuts made by the Redskins in the last 20 years.
Who would have known Akers would turn out to be the player he's become. He was pretty awful with us
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Who would have known Akers would turn out to be the player he's become. He was pretty awful with us
Akers wasn't given a proper chance with us. Norv cut Scott Blanton after two games in '98 and Casserly signed Akers to kick against Seatle in week 3. Akers was 0-2 in FGs, both over 40 yards, but surely he had more leg strength than the guy who replaced him, an aging Cary Blanchard, who was gone the next year. One of my huge problems with our kickers since then hasn't only been inconsistency on FGs, but the short kickoffs that all but assure returns to the 25 or 30 yard line. Akers was one of the best deep kickoff guys for the last decade, only declining last season after a groin injury.

Hopefully the kid competing against Suisham is given a fair shot, because it appears that he would be huge upgrade on kickoffs.
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I can't wait till Thursday, when we can actually start talking real game analysis. Open camps to the public also are very easy, we don't see everything that goes on during closed camps.

I am counting down to Thursday.
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