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Old 08-14-2009, 03:30 AM   #361
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Did Zorn also keep our offensive line protection vanilla just because it was preseason?

I understand that it is a preseason game and record-wise it doesn't matter but what DOES matter is the performance we delivered in that meaningless game.

No overall improvements were made to our O-Line and everyone expects Campbell to do the leg work in moving the ball. There has to be realistic expectations on our offense as a whole and it comes down to one fundamental:


"If you have no line, you have no time."


My opinion is that our personnel has been severely mismanaged. There wasn't any considerably major reinforcements made to our most vulnerable position on the offensive line.


...And to those about to hit quote on my post and reply with a witty "The sky is falling".

How many more 8-8 seasons do you have to see before you realize that the sky HAS already fallen?
Good point there, you have.. I can say I'm almost on your side, it's hard not to.. But once again, it seem as if every person within Redskins believe they are fine with the players we have on the list.. They have more insights than we do.. I guess I can say I would have to wait until half of season to find out.. Or ending of the season going in playoffs? We don't know how serious Thomas's situation is, yes he isn't playing much but they might hold him for a while to let him heal 100%? Let's wait until the 1st game to see the results.. If it's still same as old sh*t, then I'm on your side; count on it, man..

The FO believes Heyer can fill in the spot; after all, some of us complained that we are not developing players like some other teams (Pats, Giants, and Steelers).. Even I believe in Heyer too, he needs experience to grow.. Give it a shot.. Rinehart is ahead of Bridges for RG, and Bridges is much better than Wade.. Maybe, he will get better by 1st game, enough to take over the #1 spot when Thomas feels better or whatever?

We did sign Bridges, to give the FO some credit.. And for Mike Williams, he did move well, especially for the big boy who haven't played since 2006.. I'm not saying that he's good player, but just that he's getting his groove back.. It takes time.. If he keeps it up and continue to get in shape, it could pay off nicely..

If they are right, we all owe it to Bugel - he's the man..
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Old 08-14-2009, 03:57 AM   #362
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Old 08-14-2009, 05:05 AM   #363
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Just so it doesn't look like I'm all hater and no praiser, here are some brights & shights from Thursday's game:

Brights:
- Malcolm Kelly's aggressive catching
- Orakpo, solid while rushing
- Jarmon, gave good pressure though it seemed like he was gassed at points
- D. Hall, looks ready for the season
- 1st Team Defense, the strongest aspect of our team

Shights
- Tryon, need I say more?
- Reed Doughty, more of the same ineffectual play, gets stiff-punked by McGahee
- O-Line, gave our QB's no time and RB's no room, having no depth is frustrating on many levels
- Fred Davis's bad luck, one is his fault the other was pretty much a delayed drop
- Backup secondary couldn't get burned anymore than they did
- Theismann is too boring and nerdy, put him out to pasture.

Overall I was pretty frustrated with the game but there were some bright spots. Orakpo looks like an athlete who wants to excel and win. I like to see that. I hope we can stoke that competitive fire for the long run. It was nice to see Kelly's attitude too. He seems bitter and hungry now that he's coming into the season behind D. Thomas. Hope that translates to improvement on the field this year.
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Old 08-14-2009, 06:38 AM   #364
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Blache said he wanted to put the young guys "on an island" tonight and see how they handled it. Surprisingly he didn't seem to disappointed in Tryon. He said the guys should learn from this. From what I saw, Tryon has a LOT to learn.
I suspected as much. Williams used to do the same thing with his young safeties and cornerbacks
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Old 08-14-2009, 07:07 AM   #365
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The O line looked terrible. JC looks like he always does and so did the WRs. Orakpo did look good. Its only the first preseason game so its not panic time.
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Old 08-14-2009, 07:10 AM   #366
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The O line looked terrible. JC looks like he always does and so did the WRs. Orakpo did look good. Its only the first preseason game so its not panic time.
Really? I actually thought the O Line looked pretty decent
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Old 08-14-2009, 07:13 AM   #367
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Really? I actually thought the O Line looked pretty decent
Ok. They didnt look like they could protect anything to me. The QB seemed under pressure too often.
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Old 08-14-2009, 07:22 AM   #368
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The fact that it was vanilla makes matters worse, in my opinion. Preseason is vanilla and everyone gets 1v1 match ups. Fact is, we lost a large majority of 1v1 match ups.

As I say every preseason. The score doesn't matter, but the individual play of our players matters. We need to see this team beat the man in front of them.
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Old 08-14-2009, 07:55 AM   #369
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Old 08-14-2009, 07:58 AM   #370
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I really thought the OLine looked good, well the first and seconds. Campbell was not touched, I don't think, except for a blown block by Betts. And Collins seemed to have time as well. Also, I would point out that the D we were playing was no slouch.
I think I said this before, we got a good break with our preseason schedule, because the offense is going to get tested by the best of the best defenses. Maybe they won't rise up, but if our O can be forged into something better than last year, these are the teams we should be playing.

We beat Indy in the opener last year, didn't mean much. I don't think this loss will mean much either.

And yes I am disappointed.
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Oh and the biggest positive:

No Injuries.
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Someone needs to help me out with this. What did Betts do to get the backlash tonight? He didn't drop two first down passes like Hagans.

Did you expect a touchdown on those plays where 2 Ravens are in the backfield when he gets the handoff?

At least I can put to bed the he is better than Portis argument.... I remember several heated exchanges over that one.
Some people just have it out for him. Just tune it out, no sense in trying to make sense of it.
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Old 08-14-2009, 08:05 AM   #373
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It took me 3 1/2 quarters to finally decide to change the channel because for whatever reason I was glued to the disaster on my TV, but finally woke up and realized it was the first preseason game. Players have to learn to gel with each other. Rookies have to get rid of the jitters. and Zorn is not going to show his hand like Gibbs never did. Most of preseason was for the O-line to get their blocking down and D-line to learn where to rush and when. Having said all that....

"WOW" LOL :O[/QUOTE]

You lasted 3 1/2 quarters? My, you ARE a glutton for punishment! I was outta there before the end of the first half. Your comments with respect to what preseason is all about are on point; however, you probably also realize that that applies to BOTH teams. Unfortunately, only one had the drive and desire to come out and play football, while the other merely showed up and went through the motions (pathetically, I might add.)

It would have been more fitting for the 'skins players to have emerged from their locker room last night sporting red rubber noses and huge shoes, stuffed into a number of tiny cars spinning wildly in small circles, with the Redskins band playing that Ringling Brothers favorite, "Enter The Gladiators".

(Heavy Sigh) Only one game under our belts, and already, this year looks just like [the second half] of last year; brace yerselves ladies and germs, methinks it's going to be a loooooong season....
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Old 08-14-2009, 08:12 AM   #374
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campbell needs more snaps, brady and mcnabb both got more than he did.... and they both took a few shots down the field... 1st preseason game or not, play calling bothered me again from highlights and what im hearing... i was at the eagles game, thier offense looked alot better than ours. w/out westbrook
I couldn't agree w/ you more. Brady and McNabb were in there well into the 2nd q and their offenses were waaaaaaaaay better than ours last year.
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Oh and the biggest positive:

No Injuries.
Exactly.

Of course you'd like to see things go a little better, but at the same time the 1st preseason game is pretty damn meaningless in the grand scheme of things.

As someone already pointed out we beat Indy a year ago at this time and what did it end up meaning in the long run? Nothing.

On the disappointed meter with 10 being ready to jump off a bridge, I'm at a 2 right now.
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