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Old 08-14-2009, 08:14 AM   #376
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My vote goes to Zorn wanting to save more for the regular season. I know a lot of people are freaking out but preseason really only means so much. I mean in Spurriers first year we were preseason kings and look how much that meant. Last year the Panthers destroyed us on defense and yet we finished 4th overall. Right now a lot of players and coaches are holding back so it's no surprise if teams struggle more then they should.
I don't buy it. It was a pre season game for Balt. too and they're playing a 2nd year QB.
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Old 08-14-2009, 08:38 AM   #377
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I don't buy it. It was a pre season game for Balt. too and they're playing a 2nd year QB.
I keep wondering what people think the Skins are holding back. Its not like they were a Super Bowl contender last year and looking like a favorite again this year, they were a no playoff team. I just dont think the Skins (coaches or players) have the luxury of holding anything back at any time.
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Old 08-14-2009, 08:46 AM   #378
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I keep wondering what people think the Skins are holding back. Its not like they were a Super Bowl contender last year and looking like a favorite again this year, they were a no playoff team. I just dont think the Skins (coaches or players) have the luxury of holding anything back at any time.
What really pissed me off was CSN had a camera on Snyder and Cerrato before the game talking with Portis and Moss. Just the 4 of them. I just don't get why these two are not getting the reps in when they were two important starters on one of the worst offenses in the NFL. If Randy Moss is playing and running deep pass patterns then these two should certainly be on the field. They need the work! It starts w/ the head coach and he just doesn't command the respect of some players.
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What really pissed me off was CSN had a camera on Snyder and Cerrato before the game talking with Portis and Moss. Just the 4 of them. I just don't get why these two are not getting the reps in when they were two important starters on one of the worst offenses in the NFL. If Randy Moss is playing and running deep pass patterns then these two should certainly be on the field. They need the work! It starts w/ the head coach and he just doesn't command the respect of some players.
Do you have proof of that?

Snyder and Cerrato walk around and talk with players before most of the games. They did it at the HOF last year, heck they even talked with the Indy coaches and players.
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Old 08-14-2009, 08:57 AM   #380
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Maybe all of the naysayers on the board want us to go undefeated in the preseason like the Detroit Lions did last year? Will that make you guys happy?

It's only stinking preseason. It is an "evaluate and get better" process. The starters do not need to get hurt in a game that means nothing. They can gell and get better in practice. Come September 13th, the full complement will be out there as long as they can stay healthy in preseason. So far we are doing well in that department.
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Old 08-14-2009, 09:03 AM   #381
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That was a disaster to watch. It was preseason for Balt too (like someone said) and they kicked our butts. They were playing their back ups too. 2nd year coach too. Don't try to rationalize. We weren't a very cohesive unit out there. To be honest w/ you i couldn't watch past the 3rd quarter. Uggggly.

Come on Zorn, do something.

It is just one preseason, plenty of time to "get it straight." I'm not saying we should have played everyone last night, but the next two games...play em. Who ever is not hurt. It's not like we are a top tier offense. We're below average. Play em. We need to give this offensive unit as much playing time as possible.
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Do you have proof of that?

Snyder and Cerrato walk around and talk with players before most of the games. They did it at the HOF last year, heck they even talked with the Indy coaches and players.
Yeah I have proof. My own damn eyes! My point is why aren't they over w/ the coaches and the players? I just don't like the vibe of it. It's like, "we're too good for the pre season and we're going to hang out w/ the owner and his butt buddy". Chris Samuels was out there and IMO he's more valuable than CP.
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My final thoughts last nite:
The Good:
1. No injuries-awesome
2. Orakpo preformed better than expected
3. I thought the first team O-line played just fine, JC got time, he was slow to get the ball out
4. This is ONLY the first preseason game
5. Todd Collins looked good
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1. The entire offense cant put one freakin drive together to score
2. Fred Davis, come on! that flat out sucked
3. The Baltimore first team offense made our first team D look pretty bad right off the bat
4. Special teams coverage team was lousy
The Ugly:
Justin Tryon on one-one coverage. This is only the first preseason game, build on it, a learning experience. But that wasnt good.
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Old 08-14-2009, 09:10 AM   #384
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ah football sure is back.

Overreactions, freak outs, and over analysis.

And... it's only August! Just wait til these things are for real.
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Yeah I have proof. My own damn eyes! My point is why aren't they over w/ the coaches and the players? I just don't like the vibe of it. It's like, "we're too good for the pre season and we're going to hang out w/ the owner and his butt buddy". Chris Samuels was out there and IMO he's more valuable than CP.
So they stood there the whole time, didn't do anything with the team... Please thats ridiculous. CP and Moss are out busting their tails at practice and with the team. DS and VC talk to most all the players, and I think you are reading way too much in to a normal scene.
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What really pissed me off was CSN had a camera on Snyder and Cerrato before the game talking with Portis and Moss. Just the 4 of them. I just don't get why these two are not getting the reps in when they were two important starters on one of the worst offenses in the NFL. If Randy Moss is playing and running deep pass patterns then these two should certainly be on the field. They need the work! It starts w/ the head coach and he just doesn't command the respect of some players.
Its not that the head coach doesnt command respect, it that players like Portis & Moss know they dont have to answer to Zorn because DS will back them no matter what. Moss & Portis work for DS, not Zorn. The chain of command is screwed up and until the players kknow the head coach is in charge of the team no matter what (and get backed by the front office) the Skins will continue to struggle as on organization.

That said, I dont have a problem with vets not playing in the first pre season game.
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Its not that the head coach doesnt command respect, it that players like Portis & Moss know they dont have to answer to Zorn because DS will back them no matter what. Moss & Portis work for DS, not Zorn. The chain of command is screwed up and until the players kknow the head coach is in charge of the team no matter what (and get backed by the front office) the Skins will continue to struggle as on organization.

That said, I dont have a problem with vets not playing in the first pre season game.

I don't think it's that big a deal w/ them talking to DS and Vinny before the game.

With that being said I don't thing Jim Zorn commands the respect other coaches might get. How could he? Snyder hires the coaches, brings in the players, etc. Snyder hired the coaches before Zorn even came in.
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I don't think it's that big a deal w/ them talking to DS and Vinny before the game.

With that being said I don't thing Jim Zorn commands the respect other coaches might get. How could he? Snyder hires the coaches, brings in the players, etc. Snyder hired the coaches before Zorn even came in.
I agree Zorn doesnt get the respect other coaches get because other coaches know the front office has their back and they are in charge of the team. With the Skins the head coach isnt in charge of the team, the owner is, the players know it and hence any authority Zorn has is undermined. Thats not the way successful teams work.
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I feel sorry for Colt. He waited many months for that opportunity and it did not go well for him. That's my negative.

No one got seriously hurt. That's my positive.

Everything else was a learning experience. I'd rather someone like Tryon learn lessons last night than have him learn them in the regular season.

Chill people, please chill.
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Really? I actually thought the O Line looked pretty decent
I have the game recorded, and I went back and looked again. Not sure what game you guys were watching, but I felt like the Oline was pretty pathetic.

The 2nd drive for Campbell, 1st down had great pass-pro, and JC threw a strike to ARE for the 1st down. 1st and 2nd down runs, then the disaster of a line showed their true colors. It is 7vs4, they leave Cooley and Betts alone to handle a guy, and Rhinehart/Raback/Dockery are just "floating in open space doing nothing". When we have 7 guys blocking 4, Jason should have time to make a sandwich back there.....IMO pretty sad.
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