What Michael Vick won't be

tdSKINS1 · 01-10-2011, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by freddyg12

yep, I'm a Hokie, though I know plenty of Hokies that in the last couple years became Vick haters & remain so.

I'm a huge Hokie as well and I don't know a lot of Vick haters unless your talking about Marcus Vick. Michael was what jumpstarted that entire football program. Without Mike a lot of the money, recruits, etc. would not be in Blacksburg.

Defensewins · 01-10-2011, 05:42 PM

It is funny to read all the crap talk about Vick. I do not like or dislike Vick, but he is a legit NFL QB and is a dynamic player. Of course he does not have the accuracy of a Peyton Manning or Tom Brady. There aren't many in this world that do. If Vick did have Peyon's arm he would be Superman.
Yesterday Peyton Manning lost yet another playoff game, is there a thread calling him a choker? All of you guys will be worshiping him again next season.
Vick spent 21 moths in jail, declared bankruptcy and still was able to again become a top 5 QB in the NFL. Not many people have done this.
Donte Stallworth was drunk driving and killed a human being and only spent 30 days behind bars. He is currently playing for the Ravens. Where is the outrage for this guy?

Alvin Walton · 01-10-2011, 05:58 PM

What Stallworth did was an accident.
What Vick did wasnt.
And personally that dogfighting thing wasnt that big of a deal to me, I never liked Vick and once he became an Eagle, well.....I really started to dislike him a lot.

Defensewins · 01-10-2011, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

What Stallworth did was an accident.
What Vick did wasnt.
And personally that dogfighting thing wasnt that big of a deal to me, I never liked Vick and once he became an Eagle, well.....I really started to dislike him a lot.

Drinking and choosing to getting behind a wheel is not an accident, it is criminal.
If he were sober and ran over and killed someone that is an accident.
Call it what you want, a persons life is worth more than a month behind bars.

SmootSmack · 01-10-2011, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Defensewins

Drinking and choosing to getting behind a wheel is not an accident, it is criminal.
If he were sober and ran over and killed someone that is an accident.
Call it what you want, a persons life is worth more than a month behind bars.

Donte's situation wasn't quite as black and white as that

JoeRedskin · 01-10-2011, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Defensewins

Drinking and choosing to getting behind a wheel is not an accident, it is criminal.
If he were sober and ran over and killed someone that is an accident.
Call it what you want, a persons life is worth more than a month behind bars.

No argument.

If Vick had done what did to human beings rather than to dogs, he would never have seen the light of day. If Vick had hit a dog while driving drunk, he would likely have suffered no criminal ramifications.

As for Stallworth, you'll get no argument from me. Stallworth, however, is not being recast as the victim. etc. etc.

JoeRedskin · 01-10-2011, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Donte's situation wasn't quite as black and white as that

True. Leonard Little on the other hand ....

SirClintonPortis · 01-10-2011, 07:35 PM

Stallworth didn't go to court to defend himself even though he likely could have come out of without any criminal charges.

Ruhskins · 01-10-2011, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dblanch66

As far as I know, he killed, tortured and abused more dogs than the redskins did, also.

And probably did more jail time than the Redskins too.

SmootSmack · 01-10-2011, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

True. Leonard Little on the other hand ....

Preach

DM72 · 01-10-2011, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dblanch66

As far as I know, he killed, tortured and abused more dogs than the redskins did, also.

Be careful. I'm sure Vick isn't the only player that took part in dogfighting.

Dirtbag59 · 01-10-2011, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DM72

Be careful. I'm sure Vick isn't the only player that took part in dogfighting.

Innocent until proven guilty, and even then we haven't even gotten a hint of any other players being involved in dog fighting though I bet that there are more then a handful that show up and bet on matches. It would be much harder to find someone that handled their own executions personally like Vick did.

htownskinfan · 01-11-2011, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

Most of Vicks pounding is because of his style of play not his line. Your also wrong about why Vick became the starter.

the blitz is what has been killing him in the last few games,thats not a style of play,thats an off line issue.I could be wrong about why he was named the starter,my memory is not that great anymore,I thought that was one of Reids excuses when he was being so wishy washy on who to choose

SolidSnake84 · 01-11-2011, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

No argument.

If Vick had done what did to human beings rather than to dogs, he would never have seen the light of day. If Vick had hit a dog while driving drunk, he would likely have suffered no criminal ramifications.

As for Stallworth, you'll get no argument from me. Stallworth, however, is not being recast as the victim. etc. etc.

I disagree with you. For some reason our country is preoccupied with giving animals rights that go above and beyond those of a human being.

if Michael Vick had killed a person, even if it were murder, he would not have near as bad as a rep right now. For some reason people dont care when people kill other people, but the fact that he did crimes against dogs, make him the scum of the earth in peoples mind. Why?? Show me where else on planet earth do they put animal rights above those of a human being.

Stallworth killed a man, accident or no accident, DRUNK DRIVING that results in someone's death is still criminal, and in some states can actually be considered negligent homicide.

So the bottom line is, Vick was punished far beyond the normal limits when someone commits a crime against a person. and i think thats messed up.

Mattyk · 01-11-2011, 11:15 AM

Apples and oranges people. You can't directly compare Vick with Stallworth. Different circumstances and laws. It's not as simple as saying Stallworth killed a person, Vick killed dogs, why did Stallworth get off easier?

The case against him was bigger than just the fact he killed some dogs.

What ultimately got Vick into really hot water was his failure to fully cooperate with the federal investigation and then failed a drug test while awaiting trial.

He was operating and financing an interstate dog fighting ring that involved gambling and drugs. Under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act he could have faced much more severe penalties.

01-10-2011, 05:42 PM	#92
Defensewins Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 2,753	Re: What Michael Vick won't be It is funny to read all the crap talk about Vick. I do not like or dislike Vick, but he is a legit NFL QB and is a dynamic player. Of course he does not have the accuracy of a Peyton Manning or Tom Brady. There aren't many in this world that do. If Vick did have Peyon's arm he would be Superman. Yesterday Peyton Manning lost yet another playoff game, is there a thread calling him a choker? All of you guys will be worshiping him again next season. Vick spent 21 moths in jail, declared bankruptcy and still was able to again become a top 5 QB in the NFL. Not many people have done this. Donte Stallworth was drunk driving and killed a human being and only spent 30 days behind bars. He is currently playing for the Ravens. Where is the outrage for this guy?

01-10-2011, 05:58 PM	#93
Alvin Walton Playmaker Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Holland, Michigan Posts: 3,845	Re: What Michael Vick won't be What Stallworth did was an accident. What Vick did wasnt. And personally that dogfighting thing wasnt that big of a deal to me, I never liked Vick and once he became an Eagle, well.....I really started to dislike him a lot. __________________ REDSKINS FAN SINCE 1968 CHARTER MEMEBER OF THE DALLAS SWEEPERS CLUB

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SirClintonPortis Pro Bowl Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 6,052	Re: What Michael Vick won't be Stallworth didn't go to court to defend himself even though he likely could have come out of without any criminal charges. __________________ Analysis using datasets (aka stats) is an attempt at reverse-engineering a player's "goodness". Virtuosity remembered, douchebaggery forgotten. The ideal character profile shoved down modern Western men and women's throats is Don Juan.

01-11-2011, 11:15 AM	#105
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,636	Re: What Michael Vick won't be Apples and oranges people. You can't directly compare Vick with Stallworth. Different circumstances and laws. It's not as simple as saying Stallworth killed a person, Vick killed dogs, why did Stallworth get off easier? The case against him was bigger than just the fact he killed some dogs. What ultimately got Vick into really hot water was his failure to fully cooperate with the federal investigation and then failed a drug test while awaiting trial. He was operating and financing an interstate dog fighting ring that involved gambling and drugs. Under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act he could have faced much more severe penalties. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop Last edited by Mattyk; 01-11-2011 at 12:07 PM.

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