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Old 09-03-2009, 03:13 PM   #166
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Man I was pulling really hard for Javon Ringer pre-draft, and was really annoyed when we took Glenn. I'll be even more annoyed when Glenn gets cut. Given Jonathan Stewart's health right now, I wouldn't be surprised to see Ringer see some time in Carolina. He's a burner with nice strength and would have made sense with our 5th pick. If Marko pans out, I guess I can forgive Vinny.
For what its worth, i think Glenn will make the team. Henson many not even make the PS. I was also pulling for Ringer. However, if the plan is to draft a true complimentary back to Portis that can scare defenses, then we really need to use atleast a #2 on the position. Looking at another thread on this post, next years draft seems pretty deep at the RB and OT positions in the first 2 rounds. Campbell is showing some promise, so unless Heyer and Mike Williams both turn into starting-quality tackles, i'd be shocked if we didnt go OT and RB with our 1st two picks next year.
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Old 09-03-2009, 03:15 PM   #167
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I have respect for a lot of people on this board..SBXVII, Gmscud, 53Fan, SmootSmack and some others. Because we can debate or disagree (even agree every now and then on certain points..lol) with each other but not take it to the extreme of name calling. I blasted off on this board because someone had to call me a half wit because I said Rock is expendable. Like I said opinions are just that opinions. The coaches have the final say. When the cuts happen we will see if Rock makes it or not. That's my finaly say..I am beginning to think. Some of these posters are players. Maybe even some coaches..lol..Is that you Danny Smith.. IS that you Rock..? LMAO

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Old 09-03-2009, 03:16 PM   #168
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At the end of the day, i'd be truly shocked if our RB situation doesnt look exactly like it did last year. The only option i can really see is trading Aldridge for Cartwright. The dude's got some serious speed and Cartwright doesnt really contribute as much to this team as some think he does. Remember, despite all the talk about how vital he is to our special teams, not a single team in the 31-team league wanted him when he was a FA last year. Not one. If that's not damning, then I don't know what is.

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Old 09-03-2009, 03:22 PM   #169
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What was self contradicting? No I basically see it as you and your two cronies as being self assigned elder statesman of the board. You all gang up on people and try to make their opinion invalid. Its a opinion not fact. If everyone had the same opinions. What would we have to talk about on this board??? I also see you all are also doing this to other people on this board. Who cares if you take me seriously dude? I am beginning to really think you are a dork. Because this board is your home. I post my thoughts and opinions. Because I want to. Not for you only. This is the US. I can say what the f--k I want and for you to insult my intelligence because you can't comprehend or agree with what I am saying makes you an asshole. You probably voted for Bush both times didn't you. You probably think the WMD's are still out there. Dude I could care less what you think. Your gum under my shoe. Better yet crap under my shoe.
So now you're argument is that "it's just an opinion?" You're arguing an awful lot to take that kind of passive-aggressive stance.
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Old 09-03-2009, 03:24 PM   #170
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Old 09-03-2009, 03:26 PM   #171
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What was self contradicting? No I basically see it as you and your two cronies as being self assigned elder statesman of the board. You all gang up on people and try to make their opinion invalid. Its a opinion not fact. If everyone had the same opinions. What would we have to talk about on this board??? I also see you all are also doing this to other people on this board. Who cares if you take me seriously dude? I am beginning to really think you are a dork. Because this board is your home. I post my thoughts and opinions. Because I want to. Not for you only. This is the US. I can say what the f--k I want and for you to insult my intelligence because you can't comprehend or agree with what I am saying makes you an asshole. You probably voted for Bush both times didn't you. You probably think the WMD's are still out there. Dude I could care less what you think. Your gum under my shoe. Better yet crap under my shoe.
Dude, please chill.

Also please notice that you are free to offer your opinions, as you said. But others are also free not to give a hoot about your opinions. That is because opinions are not created equal. There is such a thing as a bad opinion. For example, if I opined that we should cut Samuels and start Colt Brennan at left tackle, most people here would consider that to be a poor opinion.

So take a deep breath and chill. Perhaps take a break from the Warpath. Whatever. But chill.
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Dude, please chill.

Also please notice that you are free to offer your opinions, as you said. But others are also free not to give a hoot about your opinions. That is because opinions are not created equal. There is such a thing as a bad opinion. For example, if I opined that we should cut Samuels and start Colt Brennan at left tackle, most people here would consider that to be a poor opinion.

So take a deep breath and chill. Perhaps take a break from the Warpath. Whatever. But chill.
I am chill dude. You need to talk to the Rock lovers. To call me a half-wit and not intelligent because I said Rock is expendable is assinine. Wasn't going to let that slide. Who is to say if it is a bad opinion or not? You can't compare Rock being expendable to the example you just used. Not comparable at all. I will break when I want to break. Rock is such a touchy issue on this board. Maybe because he is the most awesome ST player ever!! If he gets cut I am ramming crow down all your throats. If not I will come on here and say I was a half-wit and dont know shit about football and will ban myself from this board. Cool? LMAO
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I have respect for a lot of people on this board..SBXVII, Gmscud, 53Fan, SmootSmack and some others. Because we can debate or disagree (even agree every now and then on certain points..lol) with each other but not take it to the extreme of name calling. I blasted off on this board because someone had to call me a half wit because I said Rock is expendable. Like I said opinions are just that opinions. The coaches have the final say. When the cuts happen we will see if Rock makes it or not. That's my finaly say..I am beginning to think. Some of these posters are players. Maybe even some coaches..lol..Is that you Danny Smith.. IS that you Rock..? LMAO

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Old 09-03-2009, 03:42 PM   #175
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So now you're argument is that "it's just an opinion?" You're arguing an awful lot to take that kind of passive-aggressive stance.
No that's not a passive-aggressive stance. Speculations on who is going to make the team can only be opinions unless the people making the cuts are on this board posting. I am argueing my point. If you have a different point of view that's on you.

Cartwright
-29 not a spring chicken by any means
-One dimensional (doesn't contribute on any other units)
-Returns the ball to the 30. He is the only person that can do that..He's super!!
-Average RB at best
-Didn't help last year when Betts and Portis got hurt (we signed TTB)
-No other team wanted him but us. But he is so valuable.
-He is a special teams captain. But ST sucks.
-Someone made a point about Betts in comparison. Betts ran one back & Moss did to.. Without nearly as many attempts as Rock. Not even close...
-Thomas can replace him
-If we can keep one of the other RB and keep Rock that might be the best solution. To make the Rock lovers happy
- He's not a dynamic player at all
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DMV, just to warn you, you've stepped into a debate with probably the smartest guy on the site (GTripp), someone who is willing to debate till he's blue in the face (CRedskins), and easily the biggest asshole on the site (me).

Fair warning.

You've done nothing but make yourself look foolish here. You claimed that Rock's stats were terrible, I showed you that he is consistently among the best in kick returns, using incontrovertible facts. Then you dismiss statistics as dorky and irrelevant.

You've then indirectly compared Marcus Mason to Joshua Cribbs and Darren Sproles by suggesting that we choose between Rock and those elite return men. Needless to say this is idiotic, because those are Browns and Chargers, not Redskins. We are debating Mason vs Rock, not Rock vs the league.

Concurrent to this absurd analysis of yours, you continue to dismiss punt and kick coverage skills as a matter of importance. You also fail to answer my call to explain what skill set Mason adds to the team that does not already exist on the roster. So in addition to looking foolish, you appear to have little to no understanding of the NFL.
I am by no means in league with DMV, however your stats only proved he was the #6 in total yrds as a KR from ESPN. I agree cause I can't argue against that fact he had so many yrds. Probably cause other teams scored so much either with TD's or Field Goals. but I pointed out that he was like #23 on the list of all the KRers last yr with like 25 yrds per carry. Being #23 is not bad but it's not top 10 either.

Now take a moment and look at his Rushing yrds. I mean if he's going to be listed as a RB then lets look at his RB stats. He's way, way, way, down the page. I think JC had more yrds Rushing. I guess that's cause he sucks right? wrong. If he's not being utilized as a RB then it's unfair to compare his stats. No different then Mason who has not been utilized this preseason cause they are looking at Alridge, Dorsey, and Thomas.

but....I'll repeat what I wrote earlier, why does the RB have to be the KR? I mean if Thomas has another great showing like he did last game then why couldn't the KR be a WR. Thus eliminating the whole Rock issue all together. Maybe that's what Cerrato was eluding to. If Thomas has a good showing then he can be the KR/WR cause I think we all agree Kelly has surpassed him and Mitchell I think looks better also. Then the team can let Rock go and keep Mason and Alridge. That would be Portis, Betts, Mason, Alridge and Sellers. 5.

Not that it will or won't happen just throwing it out there.
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No your real name is Country Bumpkin and your a trailer park resident!
Lighten up dude.
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I'm just going to go ahead and quote myself here

"The thing that people don't realize [about teams] is that people play four and five positions," Smith said. "A guy has a position on a kickoff, a kickoff return, a punt and a punt return; that's four spots. When I lose a guy, I lose a guy at four spots.

"It may take one guy to fill all those four. It may take four guys to fill all four. That's the difference. It's not like when you lose a fullback and say, 'Well, we'll just go to another formation.' In this case, you can lose four slots, which is critical. So you need guys that are versatile like Rock, who can do a lot of things and play a lot of places."
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"The thing that people don't realize [about teams] is that people play four and five positions," Smith said. "A guy has a position on a kickoff, a kickoff return, a punt and a punt return; that's four spots. When I lose a guy, I lose a guy at four spots.

"It may take one guy to fill all those four. It may take four guys to fill all four. That's the difference. It's not like when you lose a fullback and say, 'Well, we'll just go to another formation.' In this case, you can lose four slots, which is critical. So you need guys that are versatile like Rock, who can do a lot of things and play a lot of places."
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