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Old 09-16-2009, 03:15 PM   #151
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I hope they are going to do this alot through out 4 quarters, not just few selective plays..

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Old 09-16-2009, 06:55 PM   #152
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Well, okay, I guess you have an turnover-related argument as far as costing us a winnable game. But if you take out ALL of the offensive contributions, yards, points, turnovers, and just look at the defensive contributions, you have two big plays mixed in with a completely uncompetitive game.

In reality, we only lost by 6. If I had just gone through the defensive plays only, I would have assumed a 14-17 point loss. And isn't that the real measuring stick here?


Absolutely not! There you go wanting to play the game in your head based upon statistical breakdowns. I am sure in your world Michael Crabtree is doing the right thing holding out for money he should have gotten if the Raiders would have done the right thing. GTripp are you advising Crabtree? That is the line that your logic takes us down. No thanks.
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Old 09-16-2009, 07:02 PM   #153
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Absolutely not! There you go wanting to play the game in your head based upon statistical breakdowns. I am sure in your world Michael Crabtree is doing the right thing holding out for money he should have gotten if the Raiders would have done the right thing. GTripp are you advising Crabtree? That is the line that your logic takes us down. No thanks.
You don't really make any sense when you post.
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Old 09-16-2009, 08:01 PM   #154
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how would advising Crabtree not to play make any statistical sense?
It's a pretty linear regression saying that every week he holds out, he loses a game check. And the slotting process for rookies is pretty linear. you would have to be a complete imbecile and very bad with math, to try and show Crabtree should hold out from a purely analytical basis.

Not that it has any bearing on how our defense played or didn't play.
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Old 09-16-2009, 08:38 PM   #155
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and to add this to the arguement with the cowgirl up there. Haynesworth was instrumental in that goal line stop and also in forcing the Giants to kick a field goal. So if anyone played solid on the line he did. As far as the DE's that's a different story.

We definitely need to put Orakpo on the front line. People are saying stopping the run is his issue. But the starters look even more suspect and they are seasoned vets. I think his speed woul dbe crucial on the edge. Not just to get to QBs. But also to stop running backs running to the outside.

I think our LBs played pretty well besides him.
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Old 09-16-2009, 08:53 PM   #156
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and to add this to the arguement with the cowgirl up there. Haynesworth was instrumental in that goal line stop and also in forcing the Giants to kick a field goal. So if anyone played solid on the line he did. As far as the DE's that's a different story.

We definitely need to put Orakpo on the front line. People are saying stopping the run is his issue. But the starters look even more suspect and they are seasoned vets. I think his speed woul dbe crucial on the edge. Not just to get to QBs. But also to stop running backs running to the outside.

I think our LBs played pretty well besides him.
It was first game and he's a rookie.. We should expect to see something like this, especially when he played as DE in Texas.. I'm pretty sure coaches know what to do, they said that they are impressed with him.. He's just learning; if they think that they should let Orakpo move back to DE, then they would do it..

However, I'm advocating for coaches to let him move back to DE next year when we have a chance to draft 1st or 2nd rounder LB to takeover the position..
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It was first game and he's a rookie.. We should expect to see something like this, especially when he played as DE in Texas.. I'm pretty sure coaches know what to do, they said that they are impressed with him.. He's just learning; if they think that they should let Orakpo move back to DE, then they would do it..

However, I'm advocating for coaches to let him move back to DE next year when we have a chance to draft 1st or 2nd rounder LB to takeover the position..
Sounds good. But I am questioning Blatche and Zorn on play calls and personel usage. I read something on the Redskins blog about Blatche saying the corners will play closer this game. Ummm did it take him all this time to realize this????

On another note. Is it Blatche or Blache? Is he related to Andray Blatche of the Wizards?..lol. Just kidding.
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Old 09-27-2009, 05:42 PM   #158
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Our defense is horrible!!!!!!!!!!
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yes, they are
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Old 09-27-2009, 05:46 PM   #160
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While the D looked sloppy at times today (got to stop those 3rd down conv), you cannot expect them to carry this team game after game. The Skins' time of poss is horrendous, eventually it is going to take a toll on the D.
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While the D looked sloppy at times today (got to stop those 3rd down conv), you cannot expect them to carry this team game after game. The Skins' time of poss is horrendous, eventually it is going to take a toll on the D.
The D helped contribute to the loss in the TOP battle by botching multiple oppurtunities to make a stop on 3rd down.
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The D helped contribute to the loss in the TOP battle by botching multiple oppurtunities to make a stop on 3rd down.

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While the D looked sloppy at times today (got to stop those 3rd down conv), you cannot expect them to carry this team game after game. The Skins' time of poss is horrendous, eventually it is going to take a toll on the D.
The defense played a huge role in the time of possession. They allowed a rookie QB make them look like a mediocre-to-poor defense. I am starting to believe that Blache's scheme simply stinks. The man has repeatedly said that sacks are overrated. In my opinion, Blache is simply wrong. We don't produce pressure and so we don't produce big plays, despite having guys like Haynesworth, Orakpo, Fletcher, and others on defense. The defense bends, bends, bends, and occasionally breaks. While they don't let teams score 30 points on a consistent basis, they consistently fail to get a lot of 3 and outs and don't make the plays that they should.

Moreover, there are telltale signs of poor coaching. How many missed tackles have we seen over the past 3 weeks? That's Coaching 101. It's one thing if DBs are biting on play-action to often, it's quite another if they can't tackle. I just don't have any faith in this defense.
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Old 09-27-2009, 05:54 PM   #164
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Yeah, where the hell is this pass rush? Where is Andre Carter? Where is Philip Daniels?

Wasn't AH supposed to open things up for these guys?
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Old 09-27-2009, 05:55 PM   #165
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While the D looked sloppy at times today (got to stop those 3rd down conv), you cannot expect them to carry this team game after game. The Skins' time of poss is horrendous, eventually it is going to take a toll on the D.
Yes our time of possession was horrible in large part because the defense couldn't stop the Lions on third down. We can't expect them to win the games for us but they have to at least tackle and come to play!
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