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Old 09-14-2009, 01:08 AM   #61
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That's not good. The second half is when the offense reverted to past tendencies.

I guess someone has to stick up for the D tonight. I ain't doin it.
You don't have to stick up for them, just realize that they didn't lose this game and they didn't suck more than the offense.
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Old 09-14-2009, 01:09 AM   #62
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You don't have to stick up for them, just realize that they didn't lose this game and they didn't suck more than the offense.
How 'bout both the offense and defense lost the game, ok?
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Old 09-14-2009, 01:11 AM   #63
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You don't have to stick up for them, just realize that they didn't lose this game and they didn't suck more than the offense.
Well, okay, I guess you have an turnover-related argument as far as costing us a winnable game. But if you take out ALL of the offensive contributions, yards, points, turnovers, and just look at the defensive contributions, you have two big plays mixed in with a completely uncompetitive game.

In reality, we only lost by 6. If I had just gone through the defensive plays only, I would have assumed a 14-17 point loss. And isn't that the real measuring stick here?
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Old 09-14-2009, 01:17 AM   #64
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Well, okay, I guess you have an turnover-related argument as far as costing us a winnable game. But if you take out ALL of the offensive contributions, yards, points, turnovers, and just look at the defensive contributions, you have two big plays mixed in with a completely uncompetitive game.

In reality, we only lost by 6. If I had just gone through the defensive plays only, I would have assumed a 14-17 point loss. And isn't that the real measuring stick here?
Wait, what? You're confused. If you take away the offensive contributions from both teams we would still be left with the offense spotting them 6 pts. Don't know how you can attribute the offense giving up 6 pts to the defense.
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Old 09-14-2009, 01:25 AM   #65
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That's not good. The second half is when the offense reverted to past tendencies.

I guess someone has to stick up for the D tonight. I ain't doin it.
I'll do it GD! As usual the offense stank. If Balche would only not give the WRs ten yards off the ball we'd shut those bastards down.
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Old 09-14-2009, 01:28 AM   #66
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I'll do it GD! As usual the offense stank. If Balche would only not give the WRs ten yards off the ball we'd shut those bastards down.
We're fine, they only had 250 yards for god sake. Plus, have you seen our CB play bump-and-run coverage? They'd get burned like charcoal.
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Old 09-14-2009, 01:50 AM   #67
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defense will be fine. i think people are underestimating just how good these Giants receivers are. i agree that offense was much more of a problem than defense today.
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Old 09-14-2009, 02:24 AM   #68
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In my mind the only TD we scored today was on a fake fg, the td at the end was a pitty td in the fact they ny was playing prevent d, and quit applying pressure on the offense. We had plenty of chances to come back, but like always the offense was anemic.
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defense will be fine. i think people are underestimating just how good these Giants receivers are. i agree that offense was much more of a problem than defense today.
I agree that the NYG receivers are really underrated- only because their combined years experience is so low. Smith has been one of the best route runners I've seen since college- and he rarely ever drops a ball. Hixon is up and coming and Nicks seems to have been a steal in the draft.

But our secondary play was the pits yesterday... sloppy tackling, bad angles, nonsensical scheme (or maybe our guys are just playing to headhunt/make big plays).
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Old 09-14-2009, 02:38 AM   #70
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I think the D did a good job considering the offence couldn't move the ball. They only gave up one touchdown, the offence gave up the other. Campbell sustain drives give the D rest and I think we could go all the way baby.
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Old 09-14-2009, 03:25 AM   #71
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How 'bout both the offense and defense lost the game, ok?

Couldn't say it better. Both units sucked equally!!
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Old 09-14-2009, 04:15 AM   #72
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The big issue I have with the defense was that 4th quarter drive that seemed to go on for ever . The Giants came away with 3 points but took off 7 minutes off the clock .

Poor tackling in the secondary will have to be addressed, they need to play closer on third down . Manningham should have been stopped by Smoot but he missed, Carter was too slow to the edge and Hall was flat out embarressed .

Horton was too aggressive he took himself out of too many plays, Orakopo was a none factor . One comedy moment was on one play where we got penetration and two or three Skins were in the backfield quickly and everyone seemed shocked and paused long enough for Eli to take off and Landry was looking for revenge everytime he was in 30 yards of Barber ...

All that said though the D did have its high points . It not allow a 100 yard receiver ...held the best rushing attack in the NFL in 2008 to 103 yards total . Barber had an average of 2.9 yards per carry and fletcher played out of his socks today ... but that is all going to be overlooked ...
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Landry was looking for revenge everytime he was in 30 yards of Barber ...

All that said though the D did have its high points . It not allow a 100 yard receiver ...held the best rushing attack in the NFL in 2008 to 103 yards total . Barber had an average of 2.9 yards per carry and fletcher played out of his socks today ... but that is all going to be overlooked ...
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Old 09-14-2009, 07:50 AM   #74
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1 ) Our offense did not score a TD until the game was ... over . 2 ) our Defense could not get off the field against what was an average offense at the end of 08 after Burress.
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Old 09-14-2009, 08:14 AM   #75
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If I were Blache, I think I would start FINING anyone who tries to "chip" instead of a REAL tackle that actually puts the ball carrier on the ground...........Killing us
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