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Old 09-14-2009, 01:01 PM   #91
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Doughty is remembered for getting beaten deep by 1) Terrell Owens, and 2) Larry Fitzgerald. But that's not his game. What he does do, he's actually been very good at.
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Old 09-14-2009, 01:05 PM   #92
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I wasn't that disappointed in the defense. They gave up 16 points and forced two TO's. They gave us the ball on the 8 yard line and our offense clammed up just like last year.

Please take into account that Eli Manning has become a very good qb able to elude the pass rush enough to find an open man and sqeeze it in there. I was impressed on a few occasions. He's not elite but he's good enough to make plays, and god am i tired of wondering that about our QB. He also did a good job of getting rid of the ball on our blitz.

I thought AH had a good game even though people on the radio were bashing him...? LF=awesome.

Keep in mind NY's offensive line is maybe the best in football.
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Doughty is remembered for getting beaten deep by 1) Terrell Owens, and 2) Larry Fitzgerald. But that's not his game. What he does do, he's actually been very good at.
He had a great pre-season and looked solid yesterday. He's not blessed with the athletic ability of Landry but one thing he has that Landry hasn't, is maturity. I refrained myself from saying smarts.
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Old 09-14-2009, 01:06 PM   #94
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The defense did an okay job against a very good offense. However, with the additions of Haynesworth and Orakpo, I expected more. The defense failed to consistently pressure Manning, had trouble containing off-tackle runs, and made sloppy mistakes (e.g., missing tackles). I hope it rebounds.


BTW, it's just week 1 and I expect this stat to improve dramatically, but the defense is currently the 19th ranked defense.
I think one of the major reasons why the redskins are not doing well against the off-tackle runs - Orakpo seems to be hesitant at the linebacker spot.
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I though, overall, give the superiority of the Giants Oline, they actually got some decent pressure. What I thoughts was horrendous was the pass defense. I don't understand how the Giants secondary is battered, yet they cover our receivers, our receivers can't get open, yet our secondary is healthy and there is ALWAYS wide open receivers somewhere. Not just this game either. It seems on third downs, when opposing teams complete a pass, they receiver is standing alone.
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Old 09-14-2009, 01:12 PM   #96
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I though, overall, give the superiority of the Giants Oline, they actually got some decent pressure. What I thoughts was horrendous was the pass defense. I don't understand how the Giants secondary is battered, yet they cover our receivers, our receivers can't get open, yet our secondary is healthy and there is ALWAYS wide open receivers somewhere. Not just this game either. It seems on third downs, when opposing teams complete a pass, they receiver is standing alone.
Yes, no doubt. They have unproven WRs and they can get open on our #1 team CB's. Yet our #1 receivers can't make any plays against there backups.

One reason: Eli Manning was elusive and made some plays. He ran away from our blitz, bought some time, stepped up and hit open recievers. I never thought EM was very good til last year. He's a pretty good qb.
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Yes, no doubt. They have unproven WRs and they can get open on our #1 team CB's. Yet our #1 receivers can't make any plays against there backups.

One reason: Eli Manning was elusive and made some plays. He ran away from our blitz, bought some time, stepped up and hit open recievers. I never thought EM was very good til last year. He's a pretty good qb.
I had my doubts about Eli, and well they have been completely erased (Giantone will love this). He won with a bunch of inexperienced receivers.
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Yes, no doubt. They have unproven WRs and they can get open on our #1 team CB's. Yet our #1 receivers can't make any plays against there backups.

One reason: Eli Manning was elusive and made some plays. He ran away from our blitz, bought some time, stepped up and hit open recievers. I never thought EM was very good til last year. He's a pretty good qb.
Yeah, I agree that Eli made some plays, which I think made the difference in the game. He was very accurate especially with receivers that were covered well. The defense made a bunch of mistakes, but also made at least a couple of plays. The defensive plays that come to mind are: the defensive stop on 4th and 1 near the goalline and the interception.
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I think one of the major reasons why the redskins are not doing well against the off-tackle runs - Orakpo seems to be hesitant at the linebacker spot.
The Redskins don't do well versus the off tackle run is because of Blanche's defense scheme. If you noticed, typically the Redskins linebackers and cornerbacks line up 10 yards behind the line of scrimmage. The defensive linemen have gap control, they don't flow to the ball on run plays, they cover their gap responsibilities. It's up to the linebackers and safeties to fill the creases. They are too far back, running into interference or just flat getting blocked and not getting their in time. Orakpo is out of position a lot. Carter is applying pressure from one end but Daniels is just not getting up the field. Why do you draft a pass rushing specialist and put him in a position to not help the team. This coaching staff is suspect.
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The defnese looked good at times yesterday. AH was a big plus for us against the Giants run and he did make plays. That fourth and short at the goaline for sure was due to the big guy up front. We got a fumble BC of a sack and also a pick from a nice play by Laron Landry. These guys held up there part of the bargain. They only gave up 16 points. So to me the defense doesn't equal dissapointment.

Now Zorn and his playcalling and Jason's continued struggles against the Giants. yes that equals a dissapointment.
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Really, the only difference between Eli and Jason Campbell at this point in their careers is that Eli is better in the pocket. He moves better, and does better with the pocket collapsing around him.

Otherwise, they are very similar players.
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Gtripp I completely agree. That is one thing that can make you a good QB and not just another guy.
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I though, overall, give the superiority of the Giants Oline, they actually got some decent pressure. What I thoughts was horrendous was the pass defense. I don't understand how the Giants secondary is battered, yet they cover our receivers, our receivers can't get open, yet our secondary is healthy and there is ALWAYS wide open receivers somewhere. Not just this game either. It seems on third downs, when opposing teams complete a pass, they receiver is standing alone.
Well TV does not do a very good job of showing the field to see if our WRs are open or not and JC is just missing them. I know when I saw him live (it was 2 yrs ago against the G men) we had on 9 to 12 passing plays guys wide open that JC just missed. Not sure if thats still happening but it was so bad in that game my wife even commented on it.
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The defnese looked good at times yesterday. AH was a big plus for us against the Giants run and he did make plays. That fourth and short at the goaline for sure was due to the big guy up front. We got a fumble BC of a sack and also a pick from a nice play by Laron Landry. These guys held up there part of the bargain. They only gave up 16 points. So to me the defense doesn't equal dissapointment.

Now Zorn and his playcalling and Jason's continued struggles against the Giants. yes that equals a dissapointment.
Albert Haynesworth: 4 tackles, 0 assists, 0 sacks, 0 forced fumbles.

The "100 million dollar man" needs to step it up or carve out some of that payday for London Fletcher who played lights out yesterday.
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Albert Haynesworth: 4 tackles, 0 assists, 0 sacks, 0 forced fumbles.

The "100 million dollar man" needs to step it up or carve out some of that payday for London Fletcher who played lights out yesterday.
London has been paid. AH was paid and he did his job. Yes if you pull up the fact that he only had 4 tackles it would seem from not watching the game that he didn't get it done, but I for one saw that his pressence in the middle of the line was beneficial for the Skins. I really don;t see any team running up the middle of this defense. He stopped Brandon Jacobs on 4th and inches on the 3 yard line. He was worth it.
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