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Old 09-17-2009, 10:35 PM   #1
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Run the 3-4 Anybody?

I think Blache is a great old school coach, and there is a lot to consider, but last year he said he'd be done after this year.

I don't think I would love anything more than for the FO to hire a really agressive up and coming D-coordinator to switch the front 7 to a 3-4. We have the personnel I think.
Orakpo- who's playing so far from his natural position as a 4-3 SAM linebacker
Jarmon- pass rusher
Carter
McIntosh
Fletcher
then for D-line: Haynesworth at NT, then you have Griffin, Alexander, Montgomery and Golston.

What are your thoughts? Who are potential candidates?

It's just something I thought about while sitting on my ass watching this G-Tech- Miami game.
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I think Blache is a great old school coach, and there is a lot to consider, but last year he said he'd be done after this year.

I don't think I would love anything more than for the FO to hire a really agressive up and coming D-coordinator to switch the front 7 to a 3-4. We have the personnel I think.
Orakpo- who's playing so far from his natural position as a 4-3 SAM linebacker
Jarmon- pass rusher
Carter
McIntosh
Fletcher
then for D-line: Haynesworth at NT, then you have Griffin, Alexander, Montgomery and Golston.

What are your thoughts? Who are potential candidates?

It's just something I thought about while sitting on my ass watching this G-Tech- Miami game.
This was debated before, but it was before we got Haynesworth, I'll be curious to see what the debate would look like now that we have a big NT. The Packers seem to have made a good transition to the 3-4. I'm sure realistically any transition would happen in the offseason.

So do you think Miami is back? Or are GTech and FSU not that good?
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Re: Run the 3-4 Anybody?

carter was a very average 3-4 lb in san fran. jarmon is not a linebacker in a 3-4.
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This was debated before, but it was before we got Haynesworth, I'll be curious to see what the debate would look like now that we have a big NT. The Packers seem to have made a good transition to the 3-4. I'm sure realistically any transition would happen in the offseason.

So do you think Miami is back? Or are GTech and FSU not that good?
miami is definitely back. maybe not as a national title contender but they are going to be very good. its either them or us (VT) for the ACC this year imo.
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I think Blache is a great old school coach, and there is a lot to consider, but last year he said he'd be done after this year.

I don't think I would love anything more than for the FO to hire a really agressive up and coming D-coordinator to switch the front 7 to a 3-4. We have the personnel I think.
Orakpo- who's playing so far from his natural position as a 4-3 SAM linebacker
Jarmon- pass rusher
Carter
McIntosh
Fletcher
then for D-line: Haynesworth at NT, then you have Griffin, Alexander, Montgomery and Golston.

What are your thoughts? Who are potential candidates?

It's just something I thought about while sitting on my ass watching this G-Tech- Miami game.
I don't think we have the personel for it. We don't have a pure NT, and we don't have 3-4 ends. We might be OK at LB though.
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I don't think we have the personel for it. We don't have a pure NT, and we don't have 3-4 ends. We might be OK at LB though.
Even with AH? I mean when we just had Griff I could see that, but AH is huge. Granted, we would need more depth at NT b/c Griff wouldn't be a good NT.
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Miami's BACK!

Besides that though- we could acquire some depth for where we might b weak in terms of 3-4 personnel, but I think it's really possible. Yes, GB looks like they've done it successfully.

and if Haynesworth isn't a pure NT then i dunno who is.
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Why? Not enough LB's on the team and 4-3 is what the Skins D is built around.
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We're far from having the appropriate personnel to run a 3-4 defense. Even assuming big Al could make the transition is a stretch. That said there's much more we can do schematically to improve on our 4-3 base.

Best case scenario...Spags gets ripped apart as an HC and comes in to be our DC. Ok i don't know if that's legit but certainly there's gotta be someone who can "get more" from our guys on defense.
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We're far from having the appropriate personnel to run a 3-4 defense. Even assuming big Al could make the transition is a stretch. That said there's much more we can do schematically to improve on our 4-3 base.

Best case scenario...Spags gets ripped apart as an HC and comes in to be our DC. Ok i don't know if that's legit but certainly there's gotta be someone who can "get more" from our guys on defense.
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We're far from having the appropriate personnel to run a 3-4 defense. Even assuming big Al could make the transition is a stretch. That said there's much more we can do schematically to improve on our 4-3 base.

Best case scenario...Spags gets ripped apart as an HC and comes in to be our DC. Ok i don't know if that's legit but certainly there's gotta be someone who can "get more" from our guys on defense.
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Re: Run the 3-4 Anybody?

Technically we play our 4-3 with 3-4 personnel. Two traditional linebackers (Fletcher and McIntosh), two outside rushers (Orakpo and Carter), and 3 interior lineman (Griffin, Haynesworth, and Daniels). However I don't think we should be running a 3-4. The way the personnel plays, (particularly Fletcher, Carter, and Haynesworth) is best suited to the 4-3.
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I don't think I would love anything more than for the FO to hire a really agressive up and coming D-coordinator to switch the front 7 to a 3-4. We have the personnel I think.

What are your thoughts? Who are potential candidates?
I wish Blache was more aggressive in his schemes.
Is it the 3-4 you want or an aggressive blitz intense scheme?

Because there are plenty of 4-3 teams that are aggressive and dynamic.

But, to answer your question we could easily run a 3-4 and there are times when we were in 3-4 look.

If we were to run a 3-4 i would set it up like this:

Monty, yes monty at NT
Haynesworth DE
Daniels DE
Wilson OLB
Orakpo OLB
Fletcher ILB
Rocky ILB
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3-4 is all about having great linebackers, so it's viable only if McIntosh has a true breakout year. A DL of Haynesworth, Jarmon, and Lorenzo Alexander could run it, but outside of Orakpo, we just don't have the LBs right now.
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If we were to run a 3-4 i would set it up like this:

Monty, yes monty at NT
Haynesworth DE
Daniels DE
Wilson OLB
Orakpo OLB
Fletcher ILB
Rocky ILB

I like this setup if we did go 3-4. I believe in 2 drafts we would be set at the lacking positions. Look at the Steelers, it doesnt happen overnight. look at the 1st rounders on that defense
Im not sold on da U. I think they beat up on a overrated GT tonight. The same GT that just escaped Clemson and was shut down on O for most of the night just like tonight.
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