Is Blache losing touch with reality?

T.O.Killa · 09-20-2009, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

That's good, but stats don't mean everything.

Your right, those stats say nothing of the offense being ranked 29th in the league in scoring.

Longtimefan · 09-20-2009, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 53Fan

Our offense needs to get on track and start making plays. There is no doubt about that. Pittsburgh won the SB last year with the #1 defense. That didn't stop them from taking a DT, Ziggy Hood, with their first round pick. Whether the offense is good or bad, you still want the other parts of your team to play as well as they can don't you? Or is the defense suppose to just stand pat and say, "We'll get better after the offense gets better?" The fact that we need to get more sacks and turnovers, and get off the field quicker has nothing to do with the offense. That's what good defenses do. Blache can't do anything about the offense but he CAN make the defense better and I'm not satisfied with them being "pretty good" regardless of how the offense is playing. I'm not sure how wanting the defense to play better is taken as an endorsement of the offense. I love defense and would like to see them kick ass. Regardless of how the offense plays, at least I could get some pleasure from that.

Indeed there is a correlation between what the two units do, as well as how they play on the field. That correlation was a topic of conversation which Blache was very much a part of when he was the defensive line coach, Greg Williams was DC, and Gibbs was the HC. Blaches' coaching philosophy is simular in many ways to that of Williams minus the creative blitzing. He does not beleive sack totals/or lack thereof should be a barometer for guaging the effectivness of a defense.

Between Gibbs, Williams, Blache and the secondary coaches the subject of how Gibbs wanted the defense to play based on his struggling offense was discussed. They arived at the conclusion that many of Williams' exotic blitz packages would be curtailed, mainly because Gibbs felt if the defense was repeatedly burned by the blitz (in an effort to make big plays/cause turnovers) they could dig a hole deeper than his offense could produce out of. Whatever ambivalence if any there may have been, did not prevent the defense from being effective. He was of the beleif that a vastly improved offense would reduce any sizeable onus on the defense, hence the hiring of Al Saunders.

Blache's defensive philosophy is sound and effective. He may not have all the parts he'd like to have to run some of the sets he would like, but sound nonetheless. There are times when he would like to be more aggressive, play more man and press coverages but his personnel dictate otherwise.

GTripp0012 · 09-20-2009, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Your right, those stats say nothing of the offense being ranked 29th in the league in scoring.

Through 2 games, the Redskins offense ranks 14th in yards per play.

Through 2 games, the Redskins defense ranks 14th in yards per play.

The operative question is not who is to blame, it's how can the offense score more points going forward, and how can defense prevent more points going forward.

CultBrennan59 · 09-20-2009, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Your right, those stats say nothing of the offense being ranked 29th in the league in scoring.

ok...and the Colts right now are ranked number 1 in total defense, and they played jacksonville last week, so your saying they're the best defensive team in the league?

44Deezel · 09-20-2009, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

blache is way to conservative. He doesn't want to blame his players or himself for his mistakes, but really it's all him why the D is sucking, it's him who should be saying
"hey corners its 3rd and 5 don't play 10 yards off the line of scrimmage." If you don't think phillip daniels should be at DE then and Orakpo should then make that change, if you don't think Orakpo should be an OLB then make that change, if you don't think DeAngelo hall should be an outside corner and should play the slot then do so.

I wouldn't call 2 Offensive TDs in 2 weeks exactly sucking. The Offense does nothing to help the D. Defenses that play with a lead have a big advantage. It would be nice if they were a ferocious Defense that got lots of sacks, turnovers and generally blew people up, but the D is the least of our worries.

T.O.Killa · 09-20-2009, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

ok...and the Colts right now are ranked number 1 in total defense, and they played jacksonville last week, so your saying they're the best defensive team in the league?

Again, your right, because by the end of the year we will be ranked much higher. Look all kidding aside, the defense has played well enough for us to have won both games.

CultBrennan59 · 09-20-2009, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Again, your right, because by the end of the year we will be ranked much higher. Look all kidding aside, the defense has played well enough for us to have won both games.

I guess I'll agree with that even though we still haven't gotten to the QB that much at all, we're still the same at getting to the QB as we were last year. But I will agree though that it's our offense that needs help a lot more than our defense.

T.O.Killa · 09-20-2009, 11:12 PM

I will tell all of you this, the Giants are lighting up the Cowboys secondary much worse than they did to ours.

Lotus · 09-20-2009, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

I will tell all of you this, the Giants are lighting up the Cowboys secondary much worse than they did to ours.

That's because the Cowboys secondary is worse than ours. And if Newman gets seriously hurt, look out.

44Deezel · 09-20-2009, 11:14 PM

And no D is perfect. Everyone was talking about how we went up against such a "Great" Defense last week, but the Cowboys have 24 points with almost an entire quarter to go. The Titans gave up a bunch of points today. The Ravens were touched up for the second time in 2 weeks. Bears scored 17 on the Steelers and won.

I did take exception with Carlos Rogers giving Steven Jackson a 10 yard cushion when he was split out wide.

Monkeydad · 09-21-2009, 11:41 AM

I am happy with the D. Getting TOs, only allowed 1 offensive TD in each of our games...if they keep this up all year, they could save us until our offense figures itself out, which I believe will happen.

Our defense is the least of our worries.

hail_2_da_skins · 09-21-2009, 12:14 PM

I thought the defense was much better yesterday. The tackling was better. The rotation of the defensive line kept players fresh and even though the line only registered one sack, they applied constant pressure on Bulger. The defense made stops when they needed to and created turnovers when needed. This game should have been a blowout, the Redskins have to close the deal. They must convert their drives into touchdowns.

GTripp0012 · 09-21-2009, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Again, your right, because by the end of the year we will be ranked much higher. Look all kidding aside, the defense has played well enough for us to have won both games.

Except, of course, the Giants game.

CultBrennan59 · 09-21-2009, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Buster

I am happy with the D. Getting TOs, only allowed 1 offensive TD in each of our games...if they keep this up all year, they could save us until our offense figures itself out, which I believe will happen.

Our defense is the least of our worries.

I wouldn't say that, because last I checked we're still not getting all those sacks that we're supposed to be getting...

Ruhskins · 09-21-2009, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

I wouldn't say that, because last I checked we're still not getting all those sacks that we're supposed to be getting...

Our defense is still bend but don't break, and well while unfair, there are higher expectations of them given how much $$ the team has spent in the offseason. Look at the Giants D last nite, they basically kept NY in the game.

There is QB pressure and turnovers, but they need to be one of those factors that leads to Ws.

09-20-2009, 11:12 PM	#53
T.O.Killa The Starter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Berlin, MD Posts: 1,939	Re: Is Blache losing touch with reality? I will tell all of you this, the Giants are lighting up the Cowboys secondary much worse than they did to ours.

09-20-2009, 11:14 PM	#55
44Deezel The Starter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Davidsonville Posts: 1,434	Re: Is Blache losing touch with reality? And no D is perfect. Everyone was talking about how we went up against such a "Great" Defense last week, but the Cowboys have 24 points with almost an entire quarter to go. The Titans gave up a bunch of points today. The Ravens were touched up for the second time in 2 weeks. Bears scored 17 on the Steelers and won. I did take exception with Carlos Rogers giving Steven Jackson a 10 yard cushion when he was split out wide. __________________ I am a system poster.

09-21-2009, 11:41 AM	#56
Monkeydad Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 34 Posts: 14,885	Re: Is Blache losing touch with reality? I am happy with the D. Getting TOs, only allowed 1 offensive TD in each of our games...if they keep this up all year, they could save us until our offense figures itself out, which I believe will happen. Our defense is the least of our worries. __________________ Not sent from a Droid, iPhone, Blackberry or toaster

09-21-2009, 12:14 PM	#57
hail_2_da_skins Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: St. Louis, MO Age: 57 Posts: 862	Re: Is Blache losing touch with reality? I thought the defense was much better yesterday. The tackling was better. The rotation of the defensive line kept players fresh and even though the line only registered one sack, they applied constant pressure on Bulger. The defense made stops when they needed to and created turnovers when needed. This game should have been a blowout, the Redskins have to close the deal. They must convert their drives into touchdowns. __________________ "HAIL TO THE SKINS"

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