Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Rams)

cc47 · 09-20-2009, 07:39 PM

Maybe it's just me, but I think our secondary gets torched all year, just not happy with the coverages we play.

12thMan · 09-20-2009, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by cc47

As much as I hate to admit it, we just are not a very good football team, from top to bottom.

You know I keep thinking about this "we're not a good football team" thing.

I don't know how people define that, but we rarely get outplayed. Most of what I've observed over the past 10 games is that we've beat ourselves or we were just not prepared.

CRedskinsRule · 09-20-2009, 07:41 PM

In the end, if we move the ball like we did today, the plays will come. I still believe it's possible. I would just like to see it on the field. I am sure the players feel the same way

cc47 · 09-20-2009, 07:42 PM

Very good point......How 12th how do you stop it?

cc47 · 09-20-2009, 07:43 PM

It's been that way since Gibbs 2.

roth74va · 09-20-2009, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I know Zorn is gonna catch a lot of heat this week but Moss and Sellers flat out ruined two scoring opportunities. That shouldn't be overlooked.

Also D.Thomas dropped a TD, so add him to that bunch as well.

roth74va · 09-20-2009, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Before we run Zorn out of town.

- We put up 362 yards
- 7/15 46% on 3rd down.
- JC was 23 of 36 0 INTs 63.8%
- Not counting the kneel-down, we had 7 drives. 4 were 13+ play drives, 1 was 9 plays, only two 3 & outs

I know we're playing the Rams, but Spags is a D guy and it's not outside the realm of possibility that his D will be getting better week-to-week.

Also, these are not Zorn's fault:
- JC two bad throws on deep balls that would've likely been TDs (Kelly & Thomas)
- Moss fumble inside 10 yd line
- Sellers dropped TD

I remember the Gibbs' 80s well. I remember Mark Moseley being the MVP and a few 15-14 & 12-10 wins in those days. Let's take the W and hope Zorn looks at film and improves the RZ offense over the next couple of weeks.

That all sounds great....but you add it up and it only equals 9 points. Something is wrong with this equation IMO. And we have as much talent as pretty much anyone, we just need to learn how to make it work.

GTripp0012 · 09-20-2009, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

You know I keep thinking about this "we're not a good football team" thing.

I don't know how people define that, but we rarely get outplayed. Most of what I've observed over the past 10 games is that we've beat ourselves or we were just not prepared.

We played on the road last week and had zero procedure penalities on offense. This week, we had at least two or three. So there's no theoretical reason that the team should be more antsy against the Rams than the Giants, so that leads me to think that Thomas' injury might have had some degree of a ripple effect on the offensive line.

If it's not just executing, but thinking and then trying to execute, that's when you get procedure penalties. Not home vs. road.

cc47 · 09-20-2009, 07:49 PM

I used to think that we were as talented as anyone, I am not thinking that anymore. Especially at WR.

cc47 · 09-20-2009, 07:50 PM

Our skill positions are not as talented as the upper tier of the NFL.

Ruhskins · 09-20-2009, 07:55 PM

You win some, you lose some...I'm seeing some of these other teams losing after looking very good last week. I guess a W is a W...as much as you want 40 pts. right now we're better than any 0-2 teams.

jamf · 09-20-2009, 07:56 PM

There are two major issues to consider:
We primarily rush to the left side of the line. Our right side can't run block. we can't have a one dimensional running game and be successful.

It's seems that Zorn does not trust Campbell in the redzone or with deep passes, or maybe the protection...

BTW,I will be the one to say it, I don't think JC had a solid game(Not bad either...). He's basicly become Mark Brunell. Atleast Brunell could hit a deep ball every now and then.

Hail to the Redskins · 09-20-2009, 08:02 PM

It's a funny game...

If JC throws a good ball to Kelly 1st play, Sellers catches his friggin TD pass, D Thomas catches his, we all feel 10000% different right now.

with that said... the stretch play w/ 2:12 on clock out of bounds = terrible... going for it on the 2 with a 2 point lead = terrible, needing the special teams coach to yell at your head coach to wait to call a timeout = terrible...

So yes, Zorn = terrible OVERALL today (and does truly seem over his head as HC)... but one throw & 2 catches makes for us all not needing Prilosec this afternoon

GTripp0012 · 09-20-2009, 08:05 PM

Let's at least give Zorn props for making the correct go-for-it call twice in the 4th quarter.

A stretch play when you need a half-yard? Probably not what I would have done, but it's the Skins comfort zone play. I think a QB sneak accomplishes the goal just fine, but it's possible that Zorn really wanted to get in the end zone there, even though the game situation says get a first down and kneel on the ball.

jamf · 09-20-2009, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Hail to the Redskins

It's a funny game...

If JC throws a good ball to Kelly 1st play, Sellers catches his friggin TD pass, D Thomas catches his, we all feel 10000% different right now.

You are spot on.
Unfortunately it seems like we never make those plays and I don't think it's a coincidence.

09-20-2009, 07:39 PM	#61
cc47 Camp Scrub Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 19	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Rams) Maybe it's just me, but I think our secondary gets torched all year, just not happy with the coverages we play.

09-20-2009, 07:41 PM	#63
CRedskinsRule MVP Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Pasadena, Md Age: 45 Posts: 10,904	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Rams) In the end, if we move the ball like we did today, the plays will come. I still believe it's possible. I would just like to see it on the field. I am sure the players feel the same way

09-20-2009, 07:42 PM	#64
cc47 Camp Scrub Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 19	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Rams) Very good point......How 12th how do you stop it?

09-20-2009, 07:43 PM	#65
cc47 Camp Scrub Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 19	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Rams) It's been that way since Gibbs 2.

09-20-2009, 07:49 PM	#69
cc47 Camp Scrub Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 19	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Rams) I used to think that we were as talented as anyone, I am not thinking that anymore. Especially at WR.

09-20-2009, 07:50 PM	#70
cc47 Camp Scrub Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 19	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Rams) Our skill positions are not as talented as the upper tier of the NFL.

09-20-2009, 07:55 PM	#71
Ruhskins Gamebreaker Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Columbia, MD Age: 34 Posts: 14,593	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Rams) You win some, you lose some...I'm seeing some of these other teams losing after looking very good last week. I guess a W is a W...as much as you want 40 pts. right now we're better than any 0-2 teams. __________________ R.I.P. #21 New words created on The Warpath: Rewalsr - Somretimes - Fualt - Jersesy - Itiot - Composetory Afeard - Storgn - Empliment - Gaissn - Saftys - Minnisota Faviort - Hatter - Phsyched - Foof - Heloing - Brutual Stroried Check out this cool local internet radio show Weds 7-9pm: The DC Sports Chat I sense an annoyance in the Force

09-20-2009, 07:56 PM	#72
jamf The Starter Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Diego Ca Posts: 2,178	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Rams) There are two major issues to consider: We primarily rush to the left side of the line. Our right side can't run block. we can't have a one dimensional running game and be successful. It's seems that Zorn does not trust Campbell in the redzone or with deep passes, or maybe the protection... BTW,I will be the one to say it, I don't think JC had a solid game(Not bad either...). He's basicly become Mark Brunell. Atleast Brunell could hit a deep ball every now and then. __________________ You don't get what you deserve, you get what you negotiate.

09-20-2009, 08:02 PM	#73
Hail to the Redskins The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,319	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Rams) It's a funny game... If JC throws a good ball to Kelly 1st play, Sellers catches his friggin TD pass, D Thomas catches his, we all feel 10000% different right now. with that said... the stretch play w/ 2:12 on clock out of bounds = terrible... going for it on the 2 with a 2 point lead = terrible, needing the special teams coach to yell at your head coach to wait to call a timeout = terrible... So yes, Zorn = terrible OVERALL today (and does truly seem over his head as HC)... but one throw & 2 catches makes for us all not needing Prilosec this afternoon __________________ “Sometimes it is not enough to our best; we must do what is required.” - Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965)

09-20-2009, 08:05 PM	#74
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Age: 25 Posts: 15,143	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Rams) Let's at least give Zorn props for making the correct go-for-it call twice in the 4th quarter. A stretch play when you need a half-yard? Probably not what I would have done, but it's the Skins comfort zone play. I think a QB sneak accomplishes the goal just fine, but it's possible that Zorn really wanted to get in the end zone there, even though the game situation says get a first down and kneel on the ball. __________________ Shanahan: “The bad thing is he's [Sav Rocca] probably our best offensive weapon and that’s not good.”

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