Potential Epic Fail

DBUCHANON101 · 09-21-2009, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by roth74va

Nope...agreed thats a good thing. I just dont see Cowher being a huge help to our offense, which is the real problem. Id like to see Jerry Gray given a shot at defensive coordinator.

Cowher knows that Defense and running the football--winning in the trenches-- wins championships. Look at the teams in the past decade that set new scoring records, not many hoisted the Lombardi the same yr they did so. Viks,Rams,pats

DBUCHANON101 · 09-21-2009, 04:11 PM

And yes, Horton,Mac and AH were doin it yesterday

roth74va · 09-21-2009, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

Cowher knows that Defense and running the football--winning in the trenches-- wins championships. Look at the teams in the past decade that set new scoring records, not many hoisted the Lombardi the same yr they did so. Viks,Rams,pats

Excellent point, I just see the NFL turning into a passing league IMO. Not Pats bro, Id give anything to have their success lately, lol.

Skinny Tee · 09-21-2009, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog1

When we start to fear the Fightin' Lions.........That's a problem
Get a grip Skinsville

Like the Rams are formidable foes...it is not out of the question that the Lions game will be hard game for us to win.

People who know football AND are Skins fans are realistically questioning how we are going to score to beat the Lions...especially with loss to our O-Line.

If we can't score and the Lions can't score no matter what the game will be close at the end.

BringBackJoeT · 09-21-2009, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

Cowher knows that Defense and running the football--winning in the trenches-- wins championships. Look at the teams in the past decade that set new scoring records, not many hoisted the Lombardi the same yr they did so. Viks,Rams,pats

Well, to say that the Rams and Pats didn't hoist the Lombardi trophy in the years where their offenses broke records is a little misleading, seeing as how both teams won Super Bowls with basically the same squads, and they each at least made it to the Super Bowls in the years in which their offenses were particularly stellar.

Hog1 · 09-21-2009, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

Like the Rams are formidable foes...it is not out of the question that the Lions game will be hard game for us to win.

People who know football AND are Skins fans are realistically questioning how we are going to score to beat the Lions...especially with loss to our O-Line.

If we can't score and the Lions can't score no matter what the game will be close at the end.

I understand the why.........but these are the Lions 0-19 Lions? We might not be operating at peak performance, but I'll be damned if there is anything positive to be gained by looking for reasons to lose to THE 0-19 record holding LIONS.........not gonna' happeen.

53Fan · 09-21-2009, 04:28 PM

I bet half the posters on this board go out and buy gallons of water and boxes of batteries everytime the weatherman says there's a tropical storm in the Atlantic.

dblanch66 · 09-21-2009, 04:29 PM

Offense will definitely get off the schnide this sunday and in a big way. I see a large win. Detroit hasn't seen a defense like ours yet and I feel we may see a couple of defensive scores this week.

Skinny Tee · 09-21-2009, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dblanch66

Offense will definitely get off the schnide this sunday and in a big way. I see a large win. Detroit hasn't seen a defense like ours yet and I feel we may see a couple of defensive scores this week.

Great we beat the Lions...how does that bode on our prospects against competitive teams on the year?

We've played one game vs a competitive team so far and the outcome was dismal. Our performance against one of the league's bottom teams does not indicate to me that we're a top level team competitively.

SouperMeister · 09-21-2009, 05:15 PM

I was trying to remember the last time we had a consistently competent offense, and sadly, that was way back when Norv Turner was our coach. I'm very troubled that Zorn doesn't deploy multiple BIG receivers when the offense gets inside the 10 yard line. We have yet to see a fade to Kelly, Thomas, or Mitchell for that matter. Drafting all these big WRs is a total waste if we refuse to use them. We should have used the three 2nd round picks in 2008 to bolster O-line depth.

Skinny Tee · 09-21-2009, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SouperMeister

I was trying to remember the last time we had a consistently competent offense, and sadly, that was way back when Norv Turner was our coach. I'm very troubled that Zorn doesn't deploy multiple BIG receivers when the offense gets inside the 10 yard line. We have yet to see a fade to Kelly, Thomas, or Mitchell for that matter. Drafting all these big WRs is a total waste if we refuse to use them. We should have used the three 2nd round picks in 2008 to bolster O-line depth.

Yeah...it begs the question...Why did we try so hard to draft a receiver with our first 3 picks and then run, run, desperate pass, punt on every series?

These receivers we tried to secure with all 3 of our picks are going to have no impact in our run HEAVY offense...what the hell was so important to selecting them?

You're right why wouldn't we have drafted OL if we intended to run all the time?

SBXVII · 09-21-2009, 05:37 PM

So help me out.....Where does our problems lie? I was thinking last night that we held the Giants to 23 points unlike Dallas. We were in the "Red Zone" 4-5 times against them which might have let us win the game. Defense again held their own yesterday but the offense let us down again. We were in the "Red Zone" 3-4 times which would have been a blow out had we scored TD's each time.

Watching the Giants/Dallas game it looks like their defenses are definitly not as good as ours, but their offenses are a lot better. Both teams scored on each other pretty freely. If we can get our scoring maching on a roll we might be a lot better team then both. Thats the good side of things.

What I observed, Dallas obviously has an outside running threat that the Giants didn't want to have them explioted so they spread out their defense 3 DL in the box to keep everything in front of them and between the tackles. Dallas ran up the middle all day. When we played the Giants they were not afraid of us running outside so they stacked the box with 8 DL in side the tackles which in effect took our running game away from us. Did anyone else notice and what can we do?

Bucket · 09-21-2009, 05:37 PM

Redskins 2
Lions 0

=P

SBXVII · 09-21-2009, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bucket

redskins 2
lions 0

=p

!!safety!!..........yes!

RedskinMike · 09-21-2009, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

You are certainly looking at the possibility of the Lions being favored by 2 1/2 or so despite losing 19 straight. They have some weapons on offense too. Kevin Smith put up 83 against a very good Minnesota defense and Calvin Johnson is a top five wide receiver in the league. If Johnson ever gets matched up with D. Hall that is serious trouble. Matthew Stafford might make some mistakes, but the Redskins have trouble capitalizing on those, and he will take some shots. Despite the final score, the Skins even struggled with them last year. Never mind the media being all over it, the Warpath servers will shut down if they lose to Detroit.

You are smoking crack if you think the lions are going to be favored. No chance in hell that happens.

09-21-2009, 04:11 PM	#62
DBUCHANON101 The Starter Join Date: May 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,373	Re: Potential Epic Fail And yes, Horton,Mac and AH were doin it yesterday __________________ But there's booze in the blender. And soon it will render. That frozen concoction that helps me hang on.

09-21-2009, 04:28 PM	#67
53Fan Pro Bowl Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,360	Re: Potential Epic Fail I bet half the posters on this board go out and buy gallons of water and boxes of batteries everytime the weatherman says there's a tropical storm in the Atlantic. __________________ "Cautiously And Optimistically... Looking Forward To Change"

09-21-2009, 04:29 PM	#68
dblanch66 The Starter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Age: 46 Posts: 1,176	Re: Potential Epic Fail Offense will definitely get off the schnide this sunday and in a big way. I see a large win. Detroit hasn't seen a defense like ours yet and I feel we may see a couple of defensive scores this week. __________________ The eyes are the groin of the head

09-21-2009, 05:15 PM	#70
SouperMeister Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 48 Posts: 2,917	Re: Potential Epic Fail I was trying to remember the last time we had a consistently competent offense, and sadly, that was way back when Norv Turner was our coach. I'm very troubled that Zorn doesn't deploy multiple BIG receivers when the offense gets inside the 10 yard line. We have yet to see a fade to Kelly, Thomas, or Mitchell for that matter. Drafting all these big WRs is a total waste if we refuse to use them. We should have used the three 2nd round picks in 2008 to bolster O-line depth.

09-21-2009, 05:37 PM	#72
SBXVII Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,498	Re: Potential Epic Fail So help me out.....Where does our problems lie? I was thinking last night that we held the Giants to 23 points unlike Dallas. We were in the "Red Zone" 4-5 times against them which might have let us win the game. Defense again held their own yesterday but the offense let us down again. We were in the "Red Zone" 3-4 times which would have been a blow out had we scored TD's each time. Watching the Giants/Dallas game it looks like their defenses are definitly not as good as ours, but their offenses are a lot better. Both teams scored on each other pretty freely. If we can get our scoring maching on a roll we might be a lot better team then both. Thats the good side of things. What I observed, Dallas obviously has an outside running threat that the Giants didn't want to have them explioted so they spread out their defense 3 DL in the box to keep everything in front of them and between the tackles. Dallas ran up the middle all day. When we played the Giants they were not afraid of us running outside so they stacked the box with 8 DL in side the tackles which in effect took our running game away from us. Did anyone else notice and what can we do?

09-21-2009, 05:37 PM	#73
Bucket The Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Martinsburg, WV Posts: 2,136	Re: Potential Epic Fail Redskins 2 Lions 0 =P

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