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Old 09-22-2009, 06:33 PM   #106
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Oddly enough we are 6.5 point favorites right now. I am sad to say it but based on how I feel right now i am kind of tempted.....
I never bet on the Skins but I've been thinking about putting 20 on it.. The Lions aren't looking hot but the Rams D isn't any better than the Lions' and the Lions' O is looking better than St. Louis'

Something tells me we'll come out more intense this game, but who knows
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I bet half the posters on this board go out and buy gallons of water and boxes of batteries everytime the weatherman says there's a tropical storm in the Atlantic.
It's cool the other half stay behind when there's a Katrina saying there's no way it will be bad

I don't see why people can come on here every week and act like things are just fine and will turn around every week when that clearly isn't happening.. and hasn't since many of us can remember.. we hear "it's only one game" or "well if this hadn't have happened" .. etc ... single games can matter, things DO happen

we plain don't look good and anyone who can be confident about this team lives in a land of gummy bears (minus whatever colors that they don't like), the brady bunch, and random naked supermodels
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Offense will definitely get off the schnide this sunday and in a big way. I see a large win. Detroit hasn't seen a defense like ours yet and I feel we may see a couple of defensive scores this week.
carlos' last pick 6 was against DET right?

anyways I'll be at the game and it's going to suck hardcore if it's not a convincing win.. I'll take a win of any type, but yeah
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Old 09-22-2009, 06:54 PM   #109
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It's time for the offense to win a game. But if the 'Skins lose to the Lions, Zorn should be fired, and I've been backing him ever since he was hired. I just can't take anymore poorly planned offensive schemes, but it's more than Zorn, it's Campbell, too. He refuses to get rid of the ball by making quick decisions. Watching some of these other QBs really opens your eyes to Campbell's problems.
Yeah; seeing rookies, backups, etc making quick multiple reads and not just going oh god number 1 isn't there where's Cooley or my RB is kinda

Seems like everyone else can get instant replay worthy plays, jump balls (for a short guy moss isn't bad at these), really clutch passes, etc.. where the QB will put the ball into the right spot for the WR to make a play downfield... the ones that go right over the defender and fall to the WR.. I haven't seen much from Campbell suggesting that he can drop that ball in there like that.. he needs the guy 5 yards open like college if the WR isn't on the inside
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It's cool the other half stay behind when there's a Katrina saying there's no way it will be bad

I don't see why people can come on here every week and act like things are just fine and will turn around every week when that clearly isn't happening.. and hasn't since many of us can remember.. we hear "it's only one game" or "well if this hadn't have happened" .. etc ... single games can matter, things DO happen

we plain don't look good and anyone who can be confident about this team lives in a land of gummy bears (minus whatever colors that they don't like), the brady bunch, and random naked supermodels
I would be ok in that world.

and anyone who is a downer about this team lives in a world of vegetables(only the ones they don't like), reality shows, and random naked fat guys
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Old 09-22-2009, 07:00 PM   #111
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Yeah; seeing rookies, backups, etc making quick multiple reads and not just going oh god number 1 isn't there where's Cooley or my RB is kinda

Seems like everyone else can get instant replay worthy plays, jump balls (for a short guy moss isn't bad at these), really clutch passes, etc.. where the QB will put the ball into the right spot for the WR to make a play downfield... the ones that go right over the defender and fall to the WR.. I haven't seen much from Campbell suggesting that he can drop that ball in there like that.. he needs the guy 5 yards open like college if the WR isn't on the inside
Well there ya go, fire zorn now, and campbell, and tell ESPN they better have cameras rolling (smoot i'm talking to you) and be showing us on sportscenter every hour!
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Well there ya go, fire zorn now, and campbell, and tell ESPN they better have cameras rolling (smoot i'm talking to you) and be showing us on sportscenter every hour!
Doesn't our lack of ability to make those types of plays bother you?
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The exact same reason I didnt get sunday ticket this year.

Its too expensive to pay to be letdown every week.

One can always hope that next year it'll change, but as far as i can tell, this head coaching thing just isnt cut out for zorn, he needs to go back to giving qbs tips and stay completely away from any decision making or clock management. Until he gets canned, it pains me to say this, but get ready for a big season stocked full of mediocrity from talented players.
I was thinking the same thing after sunday.I just signed up for the ticket this yr after not getting it the past 2 yrs.Then Sunday Im thinking why am I putting myself thru this? ive got a headache and im pissed and my heart is beating fast,this is getting bad for my health,lol
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Old 09-22-2009, 07:21 PM   #114
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Doesn't our lack of ability to make those types of plays bother you?
I would love to see them, I think Kelly has a lot of potential.

But, let me ask you, did you see the London Fletcher hit on Jacobs? Did that get played on Sportscenter. Nope. What about AH pushing 2 players back every play. Nope. Or Rodgers batting away passes to prevent big plays. Nope. did I get excited by those. Heck yeah.

I want to see consistent steady improvement and solid football games. And I see that. I know the kool aid is great blah blah blah.

Last year, all year we could not consistently move the football. This year we have had 10 out of 15 drives against the NYG and Rams that started in our territory and went 30+ yds, 5 of those 15 ended in points, 2 ended in punts, 2 ended in turnovers and 1 ended on downs in scoring position. So yes we are moving the ball better, more consistently. We are sustaining drives.

I believe the points will come. And I believe we have seen better football on both lines, (which is what everyone griped about over the offseason) and even when a backup stepped in(montgomery) our team kept moving.

I want a winning spirit. And mistake free football. And more points. I don't really care about the highlight reels (unless it's Campbell lifting a Lombardi with Zorn)

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Old 09-22-2009, 07:54 PM   #115
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So I went back to the first NYG game and last years Rams game, painful, and compared the drives from both years:

This year 10 out of 15 drives >30 yds , 5 drives > 70 yds
Results:
P(unt), I(nt), TD,P,TD,FG,FG,Fu(mble),FG,D(owns)
2 punts, 2 TO's, 5 scores(3 FG, 2 TDs), 1 downs (in scoring position)


Last year 9 out of 18 drives>30 yds , 1 drive > 70 yds
Results: P, Downs, End of Game, Fu,Fu,P,Fu, FG,TD
2 punts, 3 TO's, 2 scores(1 FG, 1 TD), 1 end of game, 1 downs(outside of scoring position),

all drives less then 30 yds ended with punts.

I do see this as improvement and I think it will continue

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Old 09-22-2009, 08:11 PM   #116
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Some percentages:
this year:66% > 30yds
last year:50%

this year:50% of the > 30yds ended in scores
last year:11% of the >30 yds ended in scores.

patience is a virtue.

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Old 09-22-2009, 08:16 PM   #117
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So what I took from it.....3 fewer drives and only one more positive result then last yr. But we are getting better. Last yr we had 2 scores and this yr 5. but field goals count as scores.

I'm sure this was supposed to be a positive thread, to point out the positives, to help relax people but for the last 9 yrs the team has had trouble scoring more then 20 points. They have had trouble in the red zone all 9 yrs also. I'm just having a little trouble. Sorry believing.
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Old 09-22-2009, 08:19 PM   #118
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It's cool the other half stay behind when there's a Katrina saying there's no way it will be bad

I don't see why people can come on here every week and act like things are just fine and will turn around every week when that clearly isn't happening.. and hasn't since many of us can remember.. we hear "it's only one game" or "well if this hadn't have happened" .. etc ... single games can matter, things DO happen

we plain don't look good and anyone who can be confident about this team lives in a land of gummy bears (minus whatever colors that they don't like), the brady bunch, and random naked supermodels
You are forgetting a third option: I stayed behind even though I knew Katrina, which went right through my town, would be bad. Post-Katrina, when for weeks I had no power, telephone, and water, I found ways to enjoy the experience.

So it is with the Skins. They may bring disaster but I'm not going anywhere else with my rooting. And there is always something positive to take away.

In terms of positives, we are moving the ball between the 20's much better this year. We need to get over the red zone hump, for sure. But we've got 14 more games to get better. The defense seems to be getting better and may be a joy to watch by Thanksgiving.
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It's cool the other half stay behind when there's a Katrina saying there's no way it will be bad

I don't see why people can come on here every week and act like things are just fine and will turn around every week when that clearly isn't happening.. and hasn't since many of us can remember.. we hear "it's only one game" or "well if this hadn't have happened" .. etc ... single games can matter, things DO happen

we plain don't look good and anyone who can be confident about this team lives in a land of gummy bears (minus whatever colors that they don't like), the brady bunch, and random naked supermodels
Well maybe the difference is I see improvement tryfuhl. To me, people who expect us to "all of a sudden" be top flight are the ones acting crazy. We ended bad last year and we're only 2 games into this season. I think anyone who expected us to come stomping ass out of the gate are the ones living in lala land. What I see is an offense using more weapons then we did last year. I see JC throwing the ball a lot more and the offense opening up. I see a defense, that given a little more time playing together, being one of the best we've had in years. When was the last time we had someone like AH and Orakpo on our team? Hell, throw Jarmon in there while your at it. We wanted more passing, we got it. We wanted Kelly involved, we got it. El's in the slot where he belongs for the first time since he's been here and doing a fine job. Cooley has already caught a TD and is playing lights out.

The biggest gripe everyone has is the redzone. I think you're assuming we won't improve there. I think you're wrong. I think we will and how good will we be then? We were fortunate enough to get a schedule that allows us to improve while playing lesser teams having some of the same problems. I'm not looking a gift horse in the mouth. I didn't expect us to be great out of the gate but I want us to become great as the season goes along. I see improvement so unlike some others I'm not ready to throw in the towel after 2 games. If you want to, be my guest. I find these, panic oh my god the seasons over after 2 games posts as irritating as you find my optimism to be honest with you.
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Old 09-22-2009, 08:35 PM   #120
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So what I took from it.....3 fewer drives and only one more positive result then last yr. But we are getting better. Last yr we had 2 scores and this yr 5. but field goals count as scores.

I'm sure this was supposed to be a positive thread, to point out the positives, to help relax people but for the last 9 yrs the team has had trouble scoring more then 20 points. They have had trouble in the red zone all 9 yrs also. I'm just having a little trouble. Sorry believing.
Well my point, of course I see a positive, was to look at the 2 games against the same two opponents, and say what I saw. I knew what I expected to see, but if it had been negative, I would have said that also.

What I did find, was across the board improvement. we had more sustained drives, both numerically and by percentage. Yes we had fewer overall drives, but that's because we didn't sputter on alot. we scored more off our drives. Yes they need to make more TD's and less FGs, but again, the opportunities existed this year where they did not last year.

last year we had 1 drive of 70+ yds, this year we had 5 drives of 70+ drives.

All of that is improvement.

Against the same two teams, you name a category and we improved on it this year. We went 1-1, last year 0-2.

So be negative my friend, but atleast when Zorn says there has been improvement from last year, know that he isn't bald face lying. Just wearing (slightly) tinted glasses

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