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Old 09-23-2009, 09:47 PM   #16
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And what was that interchange with Zorn and Steven Jackson?
Seriously. Someone should have popped Jackson for getting too close the Zorn Zorn was right about the roughing the passer call. Bad call. Glad to see Jarmon getting some time.
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Old 09-23-2009, 09:55 PM   #17
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Zorn was semi-joking with Jackson. He pulled off some good runs and Zorn was like hey you are good but no need to run all over me.


A pretty cool video. I dont know what play they are talking aobut that would have been a TD to Moss. The protection just brokedown though...anyone have an idea?
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Old 09-23-2009, 09:59 PM   #18
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Possibly. It definitely shows JC/Zorn's frustration. I will say this. Horton is a beast!! He was one of the best pickups we have had in years. He always comes to play!! If not for his two defensive plays we may have lost the game.
i totaly agree . horton is out playing landry so far this season. landry sometimes looks lost.
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Despite Horton making plays, he still really struggles in coverage. In the long run that still hurts us. I hope he steadily improves.

Doughty is much better and consistent in coverage. Horton is great in run support and the short stuff.
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Loved it. I'm with SS, the whole "I'm gonna run it 'cause we can't hold onto it" comment was very telling. Somebody here (not me) was saying that Zorn doesn't trust the passing game in the red zone. It seems like that was exactly the case.
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I think Z trusts the passing game and JC but the drops were killing him. Perhaps he still has a leash on JC.

At some point he needs to just get over it. Zorn isn't an idiot(at least I hope not). He f'ed up and I hope he realizes that running in predictable ways like that, wont work. And drops are drops, they happen. When they do, they seem to come in bunches. Gotta keep trucking and things will improve.
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I really enjoyed that. Zorn and JC seem to have a good relationship. Good stuff!
Actually, it makes me feel.......better about JC, JZ and the team
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Stupid video giving me hope that we're close to being good and whatnot. Arg, I want to be pissy a little longer.
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Despite Horton making plays, he still really struggles in coverage. In the long run that still hurts us. I hope he steadily improves.

Doughty is much better and consistent in coverage. Horton is great in run support and the short stuff.
I disagree, Doughty has always been a liability in coverage.
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A pretty cool video. I dont know what play they are talking aobut that would have been a TD to Moss. The protection just brokedown though...anyone have an idea?
It was second half, Montgomery got blow'd up, and Campbell started barking at Heyer. Shows that JC has some fire, I like it!!!
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I disagree, Doughty has always been a liability in coverage.
As opposed to who? You really think Horton is better in coverage? Coaches play Reed instead of Horton on passing downs when they need more coverage over rush.

Sorry but you are wrong.
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Despite Horton making plays, he still really struggles in coverage. In the long run that still hurts us. I hope he steadily improves.

Doughty is much better and consistent in coverage. Horton is great in run support and the short stuff.
Everyone has their right to their own opinion and I am not going to knock you for that. But let me state the obvious.

1. Horton caused the fumble by Avery when they were within the ten. If I am not mistaken. I might be wrong. Avery was about to score a first down. Regardless of the specifics. He ended their drive in the "redzone" and gave us the ball back.

2. On the other play I think it was Avery also. He ran step for step with Avery and almost came up with an interception on top of that. IF he had not made that play there was no one to stop the receiver from scoring a TD and we would have lost the game. So a liability in coverage..I dont know about all that. He makes plays when it counts the most.

*Avery runs a 4.2 40.
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Loved it. I'm with SS, the whole "I'm gonna run it 'cause we can't hold onto it" comment was very telling. Somebody here (not me) was saying that Zorn doesn't trust the passing game in the red zone. It seems like that was exactly the case.
I think it sounded more like Zorn wasn't trusting the hands of his receivers and running backs, since they had dropped two potential TDs.
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The interaction with steve spagnola at the end is great. "It felt like an nfc east game" he said. and then thanked him for going for it at the end. U play to win the game
Anyone who thinks zorn needs to get canned needs to watch this.
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The interaction with steve spagnola at the end is great. "It felt like an nfc east game" he said. and then thanked him for going for it at the end. U play to win the game
Anyone who thinks zorn needs to get canned needs to watch this.
Spagnola was classy at the end, though I thought when he thanked him for the end, he was thanking him for not running up the score, but just taking the knee. I mean with all the talk about our failure to score, Zorn could have used timeouts and run more plays just to prove we could get in the endzone. Assuming we got in, it would have been 16-9 and a little less of a hot seat for zorn.
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