Zorn On The Hot Seat

D'BOYZ · 09-28-2009, 10:30 AM

What's funny to me it's that in week 1 I wrote in my column that the end of Zorn Era was starting and he was going to be let go and everyone here came at me like I was insane and just another cowboys bias fan... and 3 weeks later everyone it's on the same boat.

Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor · 09-28-2009, 11:56 AM

But hey he is not the only that to go!! Blache needs to go first!

Trample the Elderly · 09-28-2009, 11:58 AM

Please join the mutiny and take that grifter SOB's avatar off. This is his fault and his alone.

roth74va · 09-28-2009, 12:38 PM

Zorn is a F'ing idiot, even today after losing to the worst team in the league, he still wants to sugar-coat this crap. You suck, your philosophy sucks, you dont motivate your players, and WE will be the ones to pay for it.

Gibbs always had the guys ready to fight to the very end. I sure miss that style of football, how did we get to this crap?

Darrell_Green_28 · 09-28-2009, 12:40 PM

Then Zorn comes in with ONLY a 5 min conference today? wtf...

Darrell_Green_28 · 09-28-2009, 12:42 PM

Well, might have been a lil longer but he didnt say anything new at all.. same shit just diff day.

Hog1 · 09-28-2009, 12:43 PM

Zorn Press conf.....wow
It is not good.

We are getting better.
We have tremendous talent.
We still need to make some fine tune adjustments.

He must not recognize the avalanche that is headed his way, and THAT is a lame attempt to stop it

freddyg12 · 09-28-2009, 12:46 PM

I opened this thread cause I thought it would say something like; Zorn spoke w/D. Snyder this morning & confirmed in his press conference today that he is indeed on the hot seat.

Rajmahal33 · 09-28-2009, 12:54 PM

My question is...what do you do if you are Snyder?

1) Fire Zorn now, well before the bye week and promote from within (finding his successor in the offseason)

2) Stick with Zorn til about the bye week and see if the situation improves...in essence pushing off the decision

3) Come out and make a statement that Zorn is still the head coach and will be until the end of the season...

Options 1 and 3 are swift definitive moves, but I think Snyder will go for option 2

Snyder is in that situation where no matter what he decides (given his history of mismanagement), there will be many skins fans calling for his blood. If he goes with 1) it will be construed as Snyder being Snyder and unless Shanahan or someone is willing to captain this sinking ship, i don't think the move will be vindicated. Option 3) would be gutsy but I still think that many will find a way to criticize Snyder for not seeing the situation for what it is. He is in a real tough spot to say the least...Thoughts?

redsk1 · 09-28-2009, 01:26 PM

If the Skins lose this week at home against TB, which is a possibility, I think JZ might get axed.

It it only week 4 so the team could turn it around. It's possible. Not probable though.

SmootSmack · 09-28-2009, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajmahal33

My question is...what do you do if you are Snyder?

1) Fire Zorn now, well before the bye week and promote from within (finding his successor in the offseason)

2) Stick with Zorn til about the bye week and see if the situation improves...in essence pushing off the decision

3) Come out and make a statement that Zorn is still the head coach and will be until the end of the season...

Options 1 and 3 are swift definitive moves, but I think Snyder will go for option 2

Snyder is in that situation where no matter what he decides (given his history of mismanagement), there will be many skins fans calling for his blood. If he goes with 1) it will be construed as Snyder being Snyder and unless Shanahan or someone is willing to captain this sinking ship, i don't think the move will be vindicated. Option 3) would be gutsy but I still think that many will find a way to criticize Snyder for not seeing the situation for what it is. He is in a real tough spot to say the least...Thoughts?

Thoughts

1. Don't know how much benefit there is to this, unless the interim coach is someone we know will be connected to the ultimate hire and can do some "advanced scouting" on his behalf.

2. The most viable scenario

3. That would be the dreaded "vote of confidence"

It's got to be number 2 I think. Here's a question for you. How much is a Cowher, Shanahan, Gruden, or Holmgren worth? I just ask because I wonder if at this point people will be ok if we throw $10+ million at any of them to "right the ship"

Skinny Tee · 09-28-2009, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Thoughts

1. Don't know how much benefit there is to this, unless the interim coach is someone we know will be connected to the ultimate hire and can do some "advanced scouting" on his behalf.

2. The most viable scenario

3. That would be the dreaded "vote of confidence"

It's got to be number 2 I think. Here's a question for you. How much is a Cowher, Shanahan, Gruden, or Holmgren worth? I just ask because I wonder if at this point people will be ok if we throw $10+ million at any of them to "right the ship"

If I was any one of those coaches I'd be paying attention to the Skins situation because every setback we suffer this season just ups the price Danny would pay for an elite coach.

At this point it's 10M a year to come in here and clean up. And if I was them I'd take every penny becuase it's going to be a huge undertaking.

Dirtbag59 · 09-28-2009, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

The NFL logos show you love competitive football in its finest form and are protesting that the Skins are electing not to field a competitive football team.

Do the red NFL logo because it shows you still have love for the franchise but don't condone the owner's wish to continually field a non-competitive team.

Well heres the deal. I to originally had that as a sign of passive protest after the win over the rams but after a day of having it I really took to liking that avatar. It made my post easy to find and in a weird way it looked professional. Now all of a sudden I see about 5 or 6 people with the same avatar. I don't know if I should be flattered or sad.

SmootSmack · 09-28-2009, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

If I was any one of those coaches I'd be paying attention to the Skins situation because every setback we suffer this season just ups the price Danny would pay for an elite coach.

At this point it's 10M a year to come in here and clean up. And if I was them I'd take every penny becuase it's going to be a huge undertaking.

Sure, but if we did would you as a fan say "Great we just wasted $10 million on a new GM and head coach" or "Great we just invested $10 million on a new GM and head coach"

SmootSmack · 09-28-2009, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Well heres the deal. I to originally had that as a sign of passive protest after the win over the rams but after a day of having it I really took to liking that avatar. It made my post easy to find and in a weird way it looked professional. Now all of a sudden I see about 5 or 6 people with the same avatar. I don't know if I should be flattered or sad.

I've got the "show avatar" option unchecked so I couldn't even tell you what avatar my posts are showing right now unless I went to my profile

09-28-2009, 10:30 AM	#136
D'BOYZ The Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,345	Re: Zorn On The Hot Seat What's funny to me it's that in week 1 I wrote in my column that the end of Zorn Era was starting and he was going to be let go and everyone here came at me like I was insane and just another cowboys bias fan... and 3 weeks later everyone it's on the same boat.

09-28-2009, 11:56 AM	#137
Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Queens Village, NY Age: 32 Posts: 349	Re: Zorn On The Hot Seat But hey he is not the only that to go!! Blache needs to go first!

09-28-2009, 11:58 AM	#138
Trample the Elderly Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Three Chopt Virginia Age: 35 Posts: 2,906	Re: Zorn On The Hot Seat Please join the mutiny and take that grifter SOB's avatar off. This is his fault and his alone. __________________ A funny thing happened on the way to the temple. The moneychangers bought the priesthood.

09-28-2009, 12:38 PM	#139
roth74va Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 336	Re: Zorn On The Hot Seat Zorn is a F'ing idiot, even today after losing to the worst team in the league, he still wants to sugar-coat this crap. You suck, your philosophy sucks, you dont motivate your players, and WE will be the ones to pay for it. Gibbs always had the guys ready to fight to the very end. I sure miss that style of football, how did we get to this crap? __________________ _________________________ 6 win talent + 2 win coaching = 4-12 season.

09-28-2009, 12:40 PM	#140
Darrell_Green_28 The Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Age: 44 Posts: 1,949	Re: Zorn On The Hot Seat Then Zorn comes in with ONLY a 5 min conference today? wtf... __________________ Light travels faster than sound. That's why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

09-28-2009, 12:42 PM	#141
Darrell_Green_28 The Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Age: 44 Posts: 1,949	Re: Zorn On The Hot Seat Well, might have been a lil longer but he didnt say anything new at all.. same shit just diff day. __________________ Light travels faster than sound. That's why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

09-28-2009, 12:43 PM	#142
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 8,413	Re: Zorn On The Hot Seat Zorn Press conf.....wow It is not good. We are getting better. We have tremendous talent. We still need to make some fine tune adjustments. He must not recognize the avalanche that is headed his way, and THAT is a lame attempt to stop it __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... Win! Always win! By fair means or foul, by soft words and hard deeds... by treachery, by cunning, by malpractice... but always win--Edward Teach

09-28-2009, 12:46 PM	#143
freddyg12 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,540	Re: Zorn On The Hot Seat I opened this thread cause I thought it would say something like; Zorn spoke w/D. Snyder this morning & confirmed in his press conference today that he is indeed on the hot seat.

09-28-2009, 12:54 PM	#144
Rajmahal33 Special Teams Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 478	Re: Zorn On The Hot Seat My question is...what do you do if you are Snyder? 1) Fire Zorn now, well before the bye week and promote from within (finding his successor in the offseason) 2) Stick with Zorn til about the bye week and see if the situation improves...in essence pushing off the decision 3) Come out and make a statement that Zorn is still the head coach and will be until the end of the season... Options 1 and 3 are swift definitive moves, but I think Snyder will go for option 2 Snyder is in that situation where no matter what he decides (given his history of mismanagement), there will be many skins fans calling for his blood. If he goes with 1) it will be construed as Snyder being Snyder and unless Shanahan or someone is willing to captain this sinking ship, i don't think the move will be vindicated. Option 3) would be gutsy but I still think that many will find a way to criticize Snyder for not seeing the situation for what it is. He is in a real tough spot to say the least...Thoughts? __________________ McNasty FTW!

09-28-2009, 01:26 PM	#145
redsk1 The Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,351	Re: Zorn On The Hot Seat If the Skins lose this week at home against TB, which is a possibility, I think JZ might get axed. It it only week 4 so the team could turn it around. It's possible. Not probable though.

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