This loss could be the best thing to happen to his franchise.

Gmanc711 · 09-27-2009, 05:53 PM

Its not even losing at this point .... this is just not fun anymore. I realize losing has an awful lot to do with it...but I look at this team, what do we even have to look forward to? We're not rebuliding right now. We're supposed to be "there" and were on our way to a 4-12 season.

TheSmurfs22 · 09-27-2009, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by wilsowilso

There is no reason for him to change. Redskins fans are major addicts and whatever bag of dope he feels like selling us he knows we will buy it.

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That is why we got to start telling him that we aint buying it anymore.

47FAN · 09-27-2009, 05:54 PM

here tony tony tony tony

Beemnseven · 09-27-2009, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

At the time we had just come off of playoff seasons in 2 of the prior 3 seasons. We've now lost 10 of the last 13 and lost to a team that hadn't won a game in 20 months. Can't see how that's the same thing.

The only reason we had those two playoff appearances was due to Joe Jackson Gibbs.

As the two-man team running this organization, Dan Snyder and Vinny Cerrato have exactly three winning seasons in ten years. Can't see how anyone can see this as anything else but broken...

Skinny Tee · 09-27-2009, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Not according to the press conference when Gibbs retired. When asked if it's time to get a general manager, and change up the player-personnel department, Snyder said, "I'm a firm believer, if it ain't broke, don't fix it."

Dan Snyder doesn't think anything is wrong with the way this franchise is run.

Yeah I agree...I know ffor a fact that Snyder won't recall that statement if presented with it.

He's a guy with a PR staff and a complete lack of sincerity. It's just a good thing to say at the time for him. He doesn't really believe that.

You're right...this thing is really broken and Snyder is the one who broke it. He won't fix this though. Good call.

insideman · 09-27-2009, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSmurfs22

I would love for this to happen but I just do not know if Snyder will ever admit that he has failed, his ego is too big.
Do you think this is where us fans need to start speaking up more? I mean do we need to start writing the organization what do you recommend?

You know if he did ever does admit he has failed, then that in its self might be a turning point for this team. I believe he wants nothing more than for this team to win super bowl after super bowl. But now he must step back before doing anything and ask what is it really gonna take to turn this team around. A new front office, new coaches, new players, etc. etc.. He must also ask himself what has not worked? Then act only after he has these answers. You know at times I think Vinny has Synder hyimtized and that he puts to much trust into what Vinny says. Bottom line is for Synder to say ok folks I've messed up and now its time to fix this mess.

SUNRA · 09-27-2009, 05:59 PM

Zorn will be fired by tommorrow. Sherman Smith will resume his offensive playcallling and Greg Blache will be named interim coach until Shanahan or Cowher is named head coach. Campbell should take that Capital "C" off of his chest because he's no captain of anything. Zorn's arrogance has sealed his fate and I can't wait to see his face when he's cleaning out his office. He was in over his head from the beginning. I believe a team takes the personality of its coach and Zorn's personality sucked this team dry of any continuity. Good riddens.

47FAN · 09-27-2009, 06:00 PM

i believe it can be done with the players we have

BrunellMVP? · 09-27-2009, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSmurfs22

Not sure how much good this will do but I just wrote the organization a letter. Guess I just had to get it off my chest. I let them know that we need a GM and it was time for Snyder to stop micro-managing everything. I also said that they need to remember to respect the fanbase. We do not feel respected anymore, at least not by management.

Maybe the more we speak our minds and send letters/emails to the organization maybe, maybe they will begin to hear us. While I know it is a business they cannot ignore us for long.

post the letter...and the address to mail it to...get more people on board- we'll take'em down, shawshank style

Gmanc711 · 09-27-2009, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

Yeah I agree...I know ffor a fact that Snyder won't recall that statement if presented with it.

He's a guy with a PR staff and a complete lack of sincerity. It's just a good thing to say at the time for him. He doesn't really believe that.

You're right...this thing is really broken and Snyder is the one who broke it. He won't fix this though. Good call.

Well he also said that a week after we made the playoffs. I know it was 9-7 season, but we were looking pretty good at the time.

roth74va · 09-27-2009, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 47FAN

i believe it can be done with the players we have

I agree, I dont think the problem is a lack of talent. We are lacking in a couple areas(O-line/Defensive backfield) but there is no way someone believes the Rams and/or Lions have more talent than we do? Its the pathetic coaching, the crap schemes, and piss-poor playcalling. Zorn was over his head from day one. Can we get Holmgren now and slide Zorn back to QB coach? Something has to change ASAP!!!

As for Snyder and him having "knee-jerk reactions", this is one case where I pray he reacts and pulls the plug on the "Mr. Pathetic aka Jim Zorn show".

GusFrerotte · 09-27-2009, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by wilsowilso

There is no reason for him to change. Redskins fans are major addicts and whatever bag of dope he feels like selling us he knows we will buy it.

Best post of the day. I went to the game and there were easily 10-15 thousand seats empty. When the Lions suck the folks of Detroit refuse to go see a bunch of overpaid bums. What do the Skins fans do when they go 5-11, they still beg for season tickets with a waiting line of years. No need for Snyder to do a god damn thing or not do a god damn thing. He is a billionaire and runs the show. He makes money and has made the Skins the most profitibale franchise on earth, and that is the bottom line. If the fans want to be blind fools to mediocrity that is their problem.

Skinny Tee · 09-27-2009, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Gmanc711

Well he also said that a week after we made the playoffs. I know it was 9-7 season, but we were looking pretty good at the time.

Yeah but that statement applies to our competitive output for this year and last.

Something is wrong and it needs to be fixed. Whether he realizes the fix is removing himself from the equasion will more than likely not be realized.

GusFrerotte · 09-27-2009, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by roth74va

I agree, I dont think the problem is a lack of talent. We are lacking in a couple areas(O-line/Defensive backfield) but there is no way someone believes the Rams and/or Lions have more talent than we do? Its the pathetic coaching, the crap schemes, and piss-poor playcalling. Zorn was over his head from day one. Can we get Holmgren now and slide Zorn back to QB coach? Something has to change ASAP!!!

As for Snyder and him having "knee-jerk reactions", this is one case where I pray he reacts and pulls the plug on the "Mr. Pathetic aka Jim Zorn show".

We have a core group to build around, but only that. Moss, Portis, and Cooley are gamers. JC had nice stats, but did not show poise at all. In fact Stafford showed more moxy than JC. Our offensive lined is rather aged and needs to go. Our entire draft should be linemen next season and defensive backs. We have no depth at all at any position, except RB.

GTripp0012 · 09-27-2009, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

We have a core group to build around, but only that. Moss, Portis, and Cooley are gamers. JC had nice stats, but did not show poise at all. In fact Stafford showed more moxy than JC. Our offensive lined is rather aged and needs to go. Our entire draft should be linemen next season and defensive backs. We have no depth at all at any position, except RB.

Stafford didn't really show me anything except his accuracy with a football is no better than mine.

09-27-2009, 05:53 PM	#16
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 27 Posts: 7,360	Re: This loss could be the best thing to happen to his franchise. Its not even losing at this point .... this is just not fun anymore. I realize losing has an awful lot to do with it...but I look at this team, what do we even have to look forward to? We're not rebuliding right now. We're supposed to be "there" and were on our way to a 4-12 season. __________________ #21

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47FAN Impact Rookie Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: 757 Posts: 685	Re: This loss could be the best thing to happen to his franchise. here tony tony tony tony

09-27-2009, 05:59 PM	#22
SUNRA The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,680	Re: This loss could be the best thing to happen to his franchise. Zorn will be fired by tommorrow. Sherman Smith will resume his offensive playcallling and Greg Blache will be named interim coach until Shanahan or Cowher is named head coach. Campbell should take that Capital "C" off of his chest because he's no captain of anything. Zorn's arrogance has sealed his fate and I can't wait to see his face when he's cleaning out his office. He was in over his head from the beginning. I believe a team takes the personality of its coach and Zorn's personality sucked this team dry of any continuity. Good riddens. __________________ Redskins Member since 1970

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