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Old 10-07-2009, 08:09 AM   #646
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Flacco has ok WR's and 3 pretty good RB's and a rebuilt OL, which make him even more formidable. Actually the guy that should get the credit for his development is Cam Cameron. To me, I would love to see him be our coach someday.
Cam Cameron, the same Cam that use to coach the Dolphins. The Cam that Dolphins fans booed for drafting Ted Ginn Jr. over Brady Quinn. Well he did manage to go 1-15 with the Fins. I guess he would be a upgrade over Zorn(not really). Week 4 lets fire the coach and we are 2-2 wow some fans never change and they want stability in the Redskins organization.
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Old 10-07-2009, 04:36 PM   #647
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I'm not sure he has quite enough time. But then again, if I recall correctly, Roethlisberger didn't have much time many times last year but still made things happen
indeed, dude gets hit more than campbell

he's got receivers that are really well in tune with his needs as far as coming back to the ball.. and probably a more fitting offense for himself and would be for Campbell as well
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Old 10-07-2009, 04:42 PM   #648
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Cam Cameron, the same Cam that use to coach the Dolphins. The Cam that Dolphins fans booed for drafting Ted Ginn Jr. over Brady Quinn. Well he did manage to go 1-15 with the Fins. I guess he would be a upgrade over Zorn(not really). Week 4 lets fire the coach and we are 2-2 wow some fans never change and they want stability in the Redskins organization.
he said SOMEday not TOday
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Old 10-12-2009, 03:31 PM   #649
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I would hate to see the Skins waste a number 1 draft choice on a QB who might not pan out. Furthermore, you can't be patient with personnel who directly affect the QB's play. If these are the best O-Linemen we can get, then we need another set of eyes to watch the O-Line coach! Do they spend enough time in the weight room? They get pushed around quite a bit.
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Old 10-13-2009, 11:58 AM   #650
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UPDATED stats/assessment:

Cutler:
WK 5 - *BYE*
TOTAL: 83/129 (64.3%), 901 yds, 8 TD, 5 INT, 89.3 rating, 22 rush yds

Sanchez:
WK 5 - 12/24 (50.0%), 172 yds, 1 TD, 0 INT, 87.5 rating, 6 rush yds
TOTAL: 75/134 (56.0%), 916 yds, 5 TD, 5 INT, 74.1 rating, 44 rush yds

Campbell:
WK 5 - 17/23 (73.9%), 145 yds, 1 TD, 0 INT, 104.4 rating, 4 rush yds
TOTAL: 98/147 (66.7%), 1,108 yds, 6 TD, 5 INT, 88.5 rating, 89 rush yds


Ranks:
Comp. % = Campell, Cutler, Sanchez
Yds = Campell (1,108), Sanchez (916), Cutler (901)
TDs = Cutler (8), Campbell (6), Sanchez (5)
INTs = Campbell/Cutler/Sanchez (5 ea)
QB rating = Cutler (89.3), Campbell (88.5), Sanchez (74.1)
Rush yds = Campbell (89), Sanchez(44), Cutler (22)
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indeed, dude gets hit more than campbell

he's got receivers that are really well in tune with his needs as far as coming back to the ball.. and probably a more fitting offense for himself and would be for Campbell as well
No it really wouldn't because Al Saunders is in charge of the passing game in Baltimore and we all saw how Campbell just mastered and excelled under that system didn't we ?
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Old 10-13-2009, 12:36 PM   #652
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Here's my personal take on Campbell. How come when he went down, and Collins stepped in and won 4 straight and led us to playoffs how come none of us were complaining about our O-line? We had no O-line problems when Collins was QB'ing. Collins not getting a chance to start is the biggest injustice since sending Warren Moon to the Edmonton Eskimo's. During his 4 regular season starts in Washington he has a QB rating of 106.4.

So he's my bold prediction. If we get a new coach this season, Campbell will be benched, Collins would start and the Skins will start winning again.
Well if I remember right Collins' start also coincided with changes made on the OL. We benched Todd Wade, slid Fabini inside and made Heyer the starting RT.
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It also coincided with having a competent guy playing QB. Collins threw the ball before receivers hit their break giving ther receiver the best chance to catch the ball. Collins was very quick with his decisions, something Campbell was not. Were still talking about a less than ideal OL for a career back up that didn't have any of the physical tools that JC has. He played some serious defenses in those 4 games and had this offense looking pretty good.
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It also coincided with having a competent guy playing QB. Collins threw the ball before receivers hit their break giving ther receiver the best chance to catch the ball. Collins was very quick with his decisions, something Campbell was not. Were still talking about a less than ideal OL for a career back up that didn't have any of the physical tools that JC has. He played some serious defenses in those 4 games and had this offense looking pretty good.
Collins would be a sitting duck right now with our o-line...at least JC is a running duck.
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Old 10-13-2009, 12:54 PM   #655
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While I'm sure those adjustments helped, the x-factor was the 106.4 passer rating. His play completely re-energized our team.
His play, o line changes, improved running game, Smoot and Springs playing lighs out, the emotions running through the team, Collins' knowledge of the offense, etc.
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Collins would be a sitting duck right now with our o-line...at least JC is a running duck.
He just may but I doubt we would've scored 9 points against the Rams. I doubt that the games would be as close against lesser competition. Before Samuels and Thomas went down there was the exact same production from the offense that we've seen through the 2 systems that Campbell has played under since being a starter here. His stats look good by the time the game is over but there aren't many points scored. Everyone needs to come to the realization that Danny was right about him. He believed in Jason and when he lost his faith in him he lost it. I wish JC well in his future endeavors but I doubt he'll be the stud that people think Washington is keeping him from becoming.
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While I'm sure those adjustments helped, the x-factor was the 106.4 passer rating. His play completely re-energized our team.
Collins looked good against Seattle in the playoffs, right? The guy is a career backup for a reason, game manager only, zero upside. What would be the point of putting him in now? Maybe by effective game management he could account for 1 win, maybe 2. That leaves us at 6-10 or 7-9, right where we want to be to rebuild ???? He is extremely slow with a weak arm.

Putting Collins in completely stops the evaluation of JC and if JC isn't the guy doesn't allow us to look at Woodson.
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His play, o line changes, improved running game, Smoot and Springs playing lighs out, the emotions running through the team, Collins' knowledge of the offense, etc.
Whats playing lighs out?
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Whats playing lighs out?
aka super smart aka fighting their guts out

The last 4 games of 2007 Springs had something like 15 tackles, 10 passes defended and 4 interceptions

Smoot didn't have quite the stats but he made some huge tackles as I recall
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