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Old 10-13-2009, 02:58 PM   #661
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Collins would be a sitting duck right now with our o-line...at least JC is a running duck.
Exactly. People calling for Collins are also conveniently forgetting that he played in the Saunders system for a decade and knew the plays inside and out. He could have thrown those balls with his eyes closed.

We no longer run that offense.

His arm looked incredibly weak in the preseason too.

TC could never duplicate that stretch of games again.
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Old 10-13-2009, 03:03 PM   #662
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Jason sucks, it's been like that for past years!
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Old 10-19-2009, 10:20 AM   #663
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UPDATED stats/assessment...yep, I said I'd keep doing it!

Cutler:
WK 6 - 24/43 (62.8%), 300 yds, 2 TD, 2 INT, 79.6 rating, 34 rush yds
TOTAL: 110/172 (64.0%), 1,201 yds, 10 TD, 7 INT, 86.9 rating, 56 rush yds

Sanchez:
WK 6 - 10/29 (34.5%), 119 yds, 0 TD, 5 INT, 8.3 rating, 6 rush yds
TOTAL: 85/163 (52.1%), 1,035 yds, 5 TD, 10 INT, 56.7 rating, 50 rush yds

Campbell:
WK 6 (half) - 9/16 (56.3%), 89 yds, 0 TD, 1 INT, 46.1 rating, 6 rush yds
TOTAL: 107/163 (65.6%), 1,197 yds, 6 TD, 6 INT, 84.3 rating, 95 rush yds


Ranks:
Comp. % = Campbell, Cutler, Sanchez
Yds = Cutler (1,201) Campbell (1,197), Sanchez (1,035)
TDs = Cutler (10), Campbell (6), Sanchez (5)
INTs (fewest) = Campbell (6), Cutler (7), Sanchez (10)
QB rating = Cutler (86.9), Campbell (84.3), Sanchez (56.7)
Rush yds = Campbell (95), Cutler (56), Sanchez(50)






Anyone still want Sanchez?

Cutler is beginning to look slightly better than Campbell in yards and TDs, but really, statistically there is not much of a difference and Jason still leads in a few categories. Of course, Cutler has played 2 more quarters than Campbell, but the separation is not drastic in those few categories. Also, Campbell still proves to be the most efficient (completion %), least turnover-prone and still the best runner when in trouble by far.
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Old 10-19-2009, 10:46 AM   #664
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Those of you who called for Todd Collins do you really think he played better that JC vs the chiefs?
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Old 10-19-2009, 10:55 AM   #665
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Those of you who called for Todd Collins do you really think he played better that JC vs the chiefs?
Yeah, those people are being proven to be looney too...like the Sanchez lovers.

Cutler's numbers are so minimally-better than Campbell's that it's obvious that even if he were on the Redskins this season, he's be no better or worse than Campbell.

With Vinny in charge of building our O-line and Zorn calling plays (up until now)...Campbell was our best-bet for this season.
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That image of Campbell sitting on the bench doesn't lie either.
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Old 10-19-2009, 11:18 AM   #667
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That image of Campbell sitting on the bench doesn't lie either.
lol that doesnt really mean he should've been benched. It was a desperate move by Zorn to try to salvage his job. Zorn failed with the move, as TC sucks.

I dont think most coaches would have made that move as it is obvious JC is epically better than all other options the SKins have (TC).
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That image of Campbell sitting on the bench doesn't lie either.
So you support Zorn's decisions? Good for you.
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I just think it's funny that's all. Gallows humor is still humor.
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Yeah, those people are being proven to be looney too...like the Sanchez lovers.

Cutler's numbers are so minimally-better than Campbell's that it's obvious that even if he were on the Redskins this season, he's be no better or worse than Campbell.

With Vinny in charge of building our O-line and Zorn calling plays (up until now)...Campbell was our best-bet for this season.
I know, I cant believe I am agreeing with you lol. Well I usually disagree when it comes to the off topic realm.

But I continue to be surprised by the JC haters. They were soo happy JC was benched and started getting excited after ONE TC pass! ONE PASS lol. I cant believe that allowed them to overlook TC complete lack of mobility and arm strengh. Sure JC makes errors, but with our terrible pocket pro he is definitely the best option.
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At this point I would rather give TC the starting nod. Give him a full week of taking all the snaps and let's see what he can do. It's obvious we're going nowhere fast with JC.
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At this point I would rather give TC the starting nod. Give him a full week of taking all the snaps and let's see what he can do. It's obvious we're going nowhere fast with JC.
But neither QB is the future right? Why play an old-QB who has zero mobility and arm strength? Dont you think blitzing teams like Eagles will be more success against TC, especially with my line?

I am just wondering, bc IMO I dont really see it any other way. Plus you are the only one who isnt a JC hater supporting TC.
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I just think it's worth giving TC a real shot. Give him a full week of snaps and prep and let's see if he can get things going. The season is sinking fast. Time to try something, anything to get the offense going. It's simply not working with JC.
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I just think it's worth giving TC a real shot. Give him a full week of snaps and prep and let's see if he can get things going. The season is sinking fast. Time to try something, anything to get the offense going. It's simply not working with JC.
I agree. Collins didnt look great but he hadnt taken a snap in a game in a long time and he hadnt prepared as a starter. Without that prep he played about the same as JC who has been the starter since JZ arrived. I dont see how playing him can hurt. He's not any kind of long term solution beyond this year but maybe with some prep he can provide some kind of spark.
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Old 10-19-2009, 11:53 AM   #675
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Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie

I have never been a big fan of looking at stats to determine a player's worth. Stats tell only part of the story and at the end of ther day the only stats that matter in the NFL are W's and L's.
I personally think JC is an NFL caliber qb capable of playing winning football. But he is a qb, which means when the team wins he will get more credit than he deserves, and when they lose he will take more blame than he deserves. Right now the only stat that matters is 2-4. Its not all his fault though.
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