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Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Age: 47
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| Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie Quote:
I didn't compare him to any of those QB, simply pointed out the gaping flaw in your simplistic and inaccurate criticism.
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Impact Rookie Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 573
| Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie I really feel for JC, but I would rather have another QB that can make decisions faster. A start is to go with Collins like the second half of yesterday's game. It didn't work out because we lost the game and Zorn lost his play-calling duties. Talk about a fall from grace... |
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Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Age: 47
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| Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie Quote:
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| Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie Sounds like we're back to the old Ramsey debate, that Gibbs somehow ruined him too. Sorry not buying it. JC has had the same issues he's had since day 1. His decision making has always been a step slow and nothing has changed in that area. He's admitted as much. He is what he is. He's probably got a good career ahead of him as a #2 in this league. I'm officially off his wagon. |
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Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Age: 47
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| Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie Quote:
Enough about that though, his lack of development and production this season has been disappointing to me-but I don't know that anyone else will do anything better behind this line.
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Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 30
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| Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie Quote:
We knew coming in that his low turnover rate wasn't sustainable, and he'd have to throw for more yards and TDs to cover for it. So far, he's done that, but thanks to the makeup of the rest of the offense, it hasn't helped translate to points. The additional points added by extending drives have been completely offset by the increase in turnovers. The run game has been spotty at best, which hasn't helped things. I don't think the WCO is the issue, I just think that this is what we've built. Last year (first five games), we had five good or great players on offense: Kendall, Samuels, Portis, Campbell, and Cooley. As the year went on, Samuels and Portis became ineffective players for one reason or another, and that left us with three. Kendall walked in the offseason (he was probably having a career year anyway), and we replaced him, shrewedly, but with a mediocre Dockery. With Samuels on the mend, Campbell and Cooley are the only things this offense has besides deception. If we bench Campbell, then it's just Cooley. There's probably no way to score points with just a QB and TE, and certainly no way to score with just a TE. Thing is, we're getting better contribution on the marginal players this year than last year. Which is one of the things that led me to project an above average offense, and 11 wins. But there's just been no breakout on offense from either Campbell or anyone else. Of course, in hindsight, Campbell did breakout last year. This is simply the limit of his value in an offense like the Redskins. Sadly, it's not good enough, and will never be.
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Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 30
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| Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie The other thing is the career year factor: not one player on our offense is having a career year (jury is still out on Heyer, though), which is just a bit disappointing. Last year, Portis and Kendall had career years. In 2005, it was Moss. In 2006, Cooley, Dockery, and Betts. In 2007, Todd Collins. This year, it's remarkably been no one so far, which is why we're so far underneath any projection for our offense.
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Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 30
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Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 30
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| Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie Campbell is having a much better season than McNabb is this year, and we're talking about a guy who was benched in the second half of a game last year. So, I mean, take that at face value.
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Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 30
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| Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie In 2007, Todd Collins and Shaun Suisham. At least Hunter Smith has scored a touchdown.
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Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Three Chopt Virginia Age: 40
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| Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie Soup is done. Whine about him and his effing numbers if you want. He's done. Gone! Just like Jimbo. Packs your bags buddy! Is it his fault? Does it really effing matter now as far as he's concerned? The only thing right about this whole situation is that we stopped playing musical chairs with the QB. We played Soup out and he's done. Kaput! Over, Nada, El Zippo. Get over it.
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The Starter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The ATX (formerly Balmer)
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| Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie Quote:
Thanks for playing.
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