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Old 10-26-2009, 01:15 PM   #796
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YouTube - Charlie Casserly Says Jason Campbell Is "Too Indecisive"

charlie casserly's break down of JC . . . sounds like alot of us on here. the defense of JC is becoming indefensible imo.

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Playcalling hasn't been the best but when you've got a QB that can't pull the trigger then you've got a bad offense. I don't think this is the best offense for JC but I remember Sonny saying that if you can play QB in the NFL then it doesn't matter what system you're in. In his 5 years here I don't think I've ever seen JC throw a ball before the wr comes out of his break.

On a side note Charley Cassery is so much sharper than Vinny C. that it's painful.
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Old 10-26-2009, 01:29 PM   #797
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I heard Casserly on the Dan Patrick show this morning, and Casserly basically said the same thing: this offense doesn't fit with Campbell's strengths. He said that JC would be better in a downfield, play-action type scheme along with moving him around, rolling him out more.

One day, I think we'll look back and recognize that the first mistake that got this whole thing rolling downhill was the hiring of Jim Zorn as offensive coordinator. Going from a completely different offense apart from the one that Gibbs ran, which is why he spotted and selected Jason Campbell in the first place, and switching to a West Coast style offense may have set JC back immeasurably.
Gibbs brought in Saunders to "modernize" the offense so it was really the offense Saunders was running.
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Old 10-26-2009, 03:33 PM   #798
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that video was dead on target. sadly, i miss Casserly. we need him back.
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Old 10-26-2009, 04:38 PM   #799
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Campbell has been indecisive, and it's been one of the bigger reasons why the offense has struggled in this four game stretch.

Just a reminder that no ones career is defined by a notably poor stretch. When Donovan McNabb retires, people aren't going to remember that he quarterbacked the Eagles teams that lost to the Giants, tied the Bengals, and got blown out by and benched against the Ravens. Yet, all those things were true. They're just non-essential characteristics of who Donovan McNabb is.
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Old 10-26-2009, 04:52 PM   #800
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I agree that JC would likely be better off on another team/system . But , his deep ball accuracy is horrible , I think he needs to sit behind Peyton or Favre for a couple of years and relax , enjoy the NFL and hope when his time comes he looks great .
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I agree that JC would likely be better off on another team/system . But , his deep ball accuracy is horrible , I think he needs to sit behind Peyton or Favre for a couple of years and relax , enjoy the NFL and hope when his time comes he looks great .
I think the best thing for Campbell's career is if someone (anyone) would just correct the glaringly obvious issues with our offense and he could pitch a very good second half of the season.

Of course, what you can't fix over an entire offseason, probably can't be fixed in two weeks.
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Old 10-26-2009, 05:04 PM   #802
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We're gonna rally up and kick off in that Philly A$$!!!!!!!! Lets have a little positive attitude!!! Im tired of all this negativity!!! We are supposed to lose!!! But what if we win?? Itl be a shocker!! And thats why they play the game!!! Cant wait! Lets do this!! COme on Defense----Defense----Defense!!! Capital punish!! Make the feathers fly!! I still think Lewis will pull out some old Tecmo Bowl plays!!!
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We're gonna rally up and kick off in that Philly A$$!!!!!!!! Lets have a little positive attitude!!! Im tired of all this negativity!!! We are supposed to lose!!! But what if we win?? Itl be a shocker!! And thats why they play the game!!! Cant wait! Lets do this!! COme on Defense----Defense----Defense!!! Capital punish!! Make the feathers fly!! I still think Lewis will pull out some old Tecmo Bowl plays!!!
That's what's up!
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Old 10-26-2009, 05:35 PM   #804
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I agree with Casserly that Campbell is a square peg being forced into a round hole with the change to a WCO under Zorn. I've wondered how Campbell would have continued to progress in the Al Saunders system, for which his skills seem a much better fit. Joe Flacco is looking pretty damn good in that system with Cam Cameron and Saunders coaching him up.
Didn't he run "a version" of the West Coast offense in College? Seemed to do well enough there.

Maybe he's just confused because he's been in six different systems since he's been a pro...

There are a myriad of reasons the Redskins stink right now. Campbell may not be playing perfectly, but he's hardly the main reason for the 2-4 record.
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Old 10-26-2009, 05:52 PM   #806
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I hope everyone watched the BANG cartoon - flawed execution - it is hilarious!
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Wow, I had NO IDEA Campbell was the person calling the stretch-left plays inside the 10 and running the ball in passing situations. I bet he's also the reason we're not trying fade routes to our tall WRs too!

Golly gee willikers...thanks for helping us understand this complipl...complloc...this hard football stuff! Glad someone here has fancy book-learnin'!


I'll update the stats again after the MNF game. Cutler laid another 3-interception rotten egg in the Bears' 45-10 beatdown by the Bengals and Sanchez was again mediocre as the Jets used the running game to the tune of 316 rushing yards to beat the Raiders.
lol u mad

contrary to popular belief you don't have to score TD's just inside of the red zone... a few of these big passes that he's missing or never seeing could easily get us a score in the hands of thomas, kelly, etc
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Old 10-26-2009, 06:17 PM   #808
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Didn't he run "a version" of the West Coast offense in College? Seemed to do well enough there.

Maybe he's just confused because he's been in six different systems since he's been a pro...

There are a myriad of reasons the Redskins stink right now. Campbell may not be playing perfectly, but he's hardly the main reason for the 2-4 record.
According to his Auburn's coach they altered the West Coast to suit JC's strengths

Redskins' Campbell in tough spot following coaching shakeup

"Borges isn't buying that Campbell can't run the scheme because the West Coast system is what he ran at Auburn when Campbell blossomed. However, Borges said he tweaked the offense to take advantage of the powerful run game and Campbell's big arm. So, instead of dinking and dunking horizontally and relying on timing and receivers to make yards after the reception, Borges implemented more play-action and vertical passing.

"As much as we threw that underneath stuff, we could get it downfield," Borges said. "He could make all the throws; short, intermediate, deep. When he played in 2004, he played lights out. This kid threw almost 70 percent of his passes complete. What's phenomenal about it, his completions were over 10 yards an attempt. That's just not done. He's accurate. Matt Leinart won the Heisman at a 66 percent completion rate with a lower yards-per-catch."
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Old 10-26-2009, 06:38 PM   #809
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Wow at this point people are still defending Campbell? Amazing.
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Old 10-26-2009, 07:02 PM   #810
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First off, lets count up his dumb ass decisions during games. Then lets look at the amount of times hes fumbled. Now, the interceptions, and while we are at it, how many fucking times does he have to bitch out and throw the fucking ball to the redskin fans in the stands??? Ya, our fans can catch better than Kelly and Randel El, but its not a completion.

Ok, now for this overblown statistic, which anyone who has actually watched the games this year can attest to. I guarantee that at least 35% of JC's passes are checkdowns, because he doesn't want to throw the ball downfield.......Checkdown, Checkdown, Checkdown, Checkdown.........JC is nothing more than an above average career backup, and its time these idiots running the team recognize this and start moving in another direction so our team can take a step towards achieving greatness, cause I can tell you right now, with JC at the helm, do not expect playoffs, and if you ever expect him to win a super bowl, you are just plain smoking some fuckin crack.

Oh, I forgot.......Why don't I ever see JC yelling at his team???? Getting pumped up????Getting his team motivated?????? Being a leader?????

I'll tell you why, cause he is a timid little pussified boy who cant take charge of a team, and you cant be timid in the NFL and be a leader. Bottom line.
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