Warpath  

Home | Forums | Salary Cap Info | Shop | Donate | Stay Connected




Go Back   Warpath > Redskins Forums > Redskins Locker Room


Campbell's numbers dont lie

Redskins Locker Room


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-28-2009, 10:35 PM   #106
‎\m/
 
Mattyk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Age: 41
Posts: 82,328
Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie

Quote:
Originally Posted by GusFrerotte View Post
For one thing I have yet to see any post Lion defeat thread have anyone say bench JC, except the one here. Next is that stats don't lie, but we still can't get into the endzone, which is not JC's fault. I was at the game Sunday with some of my friends who are Lions fans. My best friend who is an avid Lion and football fan in general told me that we needed a new QB. I told him to look at the scoreboard stats, it didn't matter to him. You know what, he is right. Stafford is a rook and showed more poise than JC an guy that has been around for 6 years. What did JC have, 3 or 4 dropped snaps that could have ended up as fumbles? The one he recovered rather nicely, but why did he lose the snaps in the first place? Other times he was like a deer in headlights not sure whether to throw or run or who to throw to. The other intangible is the leadership aspect of being 'the man", and JC is woefully inadequate in this aspect of his role as starter. Shit Gus showed more emotion and tried to rally the team more back during the Norv days than JC has now. Zorn's scheme is the basic problem, but JC, along with a lot of the squad deserves a lot of heat from Sunday's game. THey showed absolutely no fire at all, either sides of the ball. Oh and props to good ole Gus, for he truly did more with less!!!!!
You crack me up with the Gus mentions. We're talking about a guy who head-butted a cement wall for crying out loud.
__________________
Support The Warpath! | Warpath Shop
Mattyk is offline   Reply With Quote

Advertisements
Old 09-28-2009, 10:36 PM   #107
Registered User
 
GusFrerotte's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Detroit area
Posts: 4,153
Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie

God I miss the early Norv days. I think I am going to get a Frerotte jersey now!!!!!
GusFrerotte is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2009, 10:37 PM   #108
Living Legend
 
GTripp0012's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Evanston, IL
Age: 26
Posts: 15,994
Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie

Quote:
Originally Posted by GusFrerotte View Post
For one thing I have yet to see any post Lion defeat thread have anyone say bench JC, except the one here. Next is that stats don't lie, but we still can't get into the endzone, which is not JC's fault. I was at the game Sunday with some of my friends who are Lions fans. My best friend who is an avid Lion and football fan in general told me that we needed a new QB. I told him to look at the scoreboard stats, it didn't matter to him. You know what, he is right. Stafford is a rook and showed more poise than JC an guy that has been around for 6 years. What did JC have, 3 or 4 dropped snaps that could have ended up as fumbles? The one he recovered rather nicely, but why did he lose the snaps in the first place? Other times he was like a deer in headlights not sure whether to throw or run or who to throw to. The other intangible is the leadership aspect of being 'the man", and JC is woefully inadequate in this aspect of his role as starter. Shit Gus showed more emotion and tried to rally the team more back during the Norv days than JC has now. Zorn's scheme is the basic problem, but JC, along with a lot of the squad deserves a lot of heat from Sunday's game. THey showed absolutely no fire at all, either sides of the ball. Oh and props to good ole Gus, for he truly did more with less!!!!!
I like the part where you totally outsmarted your friend, and then for no reason concluded that he was right.

Maybe there's something intangible that Campbell is missing that contributes to the offensive disorganization. But it never looks like the game is too fast for him out there, if anything, it looks like he wants to get out there and run plays faster than Zorn can get them in. I put the disorganization on Zorn, not Campbell lacking in intangibles.
__________________
according to a source with knowledge of the situation.
GTripp0012 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2009, 10:40 PM   #109
Registered User
 
GusFrerotte's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Detroit area
Posts: 4,153
Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattyk72 View Post
You crack me up with the Gus mentions. We're talking about a guy who head-butted a cement wall for crying out loud.

True, but at least he had heart!!!!! And unless JC gets the TD machine going Gus will still be over JC in passing TDs as a Skin at year's end!!!!!!!!! Also, did Gus have the weapons like JC does now?
GusFrerotte is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2009, 10:41 PM   #110
Registered User
 
GusFrerotte's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Detroit area
Posts: 4,153
Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie

Quote:
Originally Posted by GTripp0012 View Post
I like the part where you totally outsmarted your friend, and then for no reason concluded that he was right.

Maybe there's something intangible that Campbell is missing that contributes to the offensive disorganization. But it never looks like the game is too fast for him out there, if anything, it looks like he wants to get out there and run plays faster than Zorn can get them in. I put the disorganization on Zorn, not Campbell lacking in intangibles.
I switched that part to he had a point. Besides he did have a valid point. JC is indecisive and shows no fire in being the leader of the offense. Stafford looked more relaxed/poised than JC. That was all too painfully obvious!!! JC is the man, but really hasn't grown into the part yet.

Gus Frerotte Rules!!!!
GusFrerotte is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2009, 10:44 PM   #111
Living Legend
 
GTripp0012's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Evanston, IL
Age: 26
Posts: 15,994
Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie

Quote:
Originally Posted by GusFrerotte View Post
True, but at least he had heart!!!!! And unless JC gets the TD machine going Gus will still be over JC in passing TDs as a Skin at year's end!!!!!!!!! Also, did Gus have the weapons like JC does now?
He didn't have a Cooley comparable, but then again, Campbell's numbers are just better. So Cooley might help to explain that.
__________________
according to a source with knowledge of the situation.
GTripp0012 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2009, 10:45 PM   #112
‎\m/
 
Mattyk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Age: 41
Posts: 82,328
Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie

Quote:
Originally Posted by GusFrerotte View Post
True, but at least he had heart!!!!! And unless JC gets the TD machine going Gus will still be over JC in passing TDs as a Skin at year's end!!!!!!!!! Also, did Gus have the weapons like JC does now?
Yeah you got me, tried looking up some heart stats and Gus clearly wins. As for weapons didn't Gus have the likes of Henry Ellard?

And I wouldn't brag too hard on his numbers... they were less than impressive. In fact they were pretty mediocre.

Gus Frerotte NFL & AFL Football Statistics | Pro-Football-Reference.com
__________________
Support The Warpath! | Warpath Shop
Mattyk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2009, 10:46 PM   #113
Registered User
 
GusFrerotte's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Detroit area
Posts: 4,153
Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattyk72 View Post
Yeah you got me, tried looking up some heart stats and Gus clearly wins. As for weapons didn't Gus have the likes of Henry Ellard?

And I wouldn't brag too hard on his numbers... they were less than impressive.

Gus Frerotte NFL & AFL Football Statistics | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Ellard was on the downslope of his career at that point, so was Leslie Shepard. He also didn't have a Cooley to save his ass either.
GusFrerotte is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2009, 10:47 PM   #114
Camp Scrub
 
Jesse E. Timmons's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 47
Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie

campbell is mark brunell jr. he is a happy looser.
__________________
not an expert, just a fan.
Jesse E. Timmons is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2009, 10:48 PM   #115
‎\m/
 
Mattyk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Age: 41
Posts: 82,328
Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie

Quote:
Originally Posted by GusFrerotte View Post
Ellard was on the downslope of his career at that point, so was Leslie Sheppard. He also didn't have a Cooley to save his ass either.
Ellard topped 1,000 yards in 3 of his 4 seasons in WAS.

He was still pretty damn good

Henry Ellard NFL & AFL Football Statistics | Pro-Football-Reference.com

As for TE Jamie Asher was a pretty reliable target
__________________
Support The Warpath! | Warpath Shop
Mattyk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2009, 10:48 PM   #116
Living Legend
 
Ruhskins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 16,184
Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie

Quote:
Originally Posted by GusFrerotte View Post
I switched that part to he had a point. Besides he did have a valid point. JC is indecisive and shows no fire in being the leader of the offense. Stafford looked more relaxed/poised than JC. That was all too painfully obvious!!! JC is the man, but really hasn't grown into the part yet.

Gus Frerotte Sucks!!!!
See this is the reason why Jason Campbell needs to go to another team, you got the f'ing owner wanting to ship him out town and stupid fans that are making up reasons to hate him and lay the blame solely on him.

As I said, I wish Campbell was a terrible QB so these morons had something to complain about.
__________________
R.I.P. #21

New words created on The Warpath:
Rewalsr - Somretimes - Fualt - Jersesy - Itiot - Composetory
Afeard - Storgn - Empliment - Gaissn - Saftys - Minnisota
Faviort - Hatter - Phsyched - Foof - Heloing - Brutual
Stroried

"Give an opinion and move on. Your life doesn't depend on winning the internet." -FRPLG
Ruhskins is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2009, 10:49 PM   #117
Uncle Phil
 
SmootSmack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 44,791
Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie

Gus had Brian Mitchell
__________________
You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You
SmootSmack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2009, 10:52 PM   #118
Living Legend
 
GTripp0012's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Evanston, IL
Age: 26
Posts: 15,994
Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie

Part of the reason Stafford looked poised is because he never had to go past his first read all day.

The exception to the rule was the 3rd and 14 play following the accepted holding penalty when he ran for 22 yards.
__________________
according to a source with knowledge of the situation.
GTripp0012 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2009, 10:52 PM   #119
Registered User
 
GusFrerotte's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Detroit area
Posts: 4,153
Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruhskins View Post
See this is the reason why Jason Campbell needs to go to another team, you got the f'ing owner wanting to ship him out town and stupid fans that are making up reasons to hate him and lay the blame solely on him.

As I said, I wish Campbell was a terrible QB so these morons had something to complain about.

Dude I am having fun here. Cut the crap. I don't hate on JC at all. Read the original post. I say that JC isn't the main reason, but he does have to bear some brunt of the blame. A coach can only do so much til it rests in the hands of the players to execute. This is just another crazy stream of funny rants by me Gus Frerotte.
GusFrerotte is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2009, 10:54 PM   #120
Living Legend
 
Ruhskins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 16,184
Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie

Quote:
Originally Posted by GusFrerotte View Post
Dude I am having fun here. Cut the crap. I don't hate on JC at all. Read the original post. I say that JC isn't the main reason, but he does have to bear some brunt of the blame. A coach can only do so much til it rests in the hands of the players to execute. This is just another crazy stream of funny rants by me Gus Frerotte.
Well then I pass my aggressive thread someone else.
__________________
R.I.P. #21

New words created on The Warpath:
Rewalsr - Somretimes - Fualt - Jersesy - Itiot - Composetory
Afeard - Storgn - Empliment - Gaissn - Saftys - Minnisota
Faviort - Hatter - Phsyched - Foof - Heloing - Brutual
Stroried

"Give an opinion and move on. Your life doesn't depend on winning the internet." -FRPLG
Ruhskins is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:02 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site is not officially affiliated with the Washington Redskins or the NFL.
Page generated in 0.32697 seconds with 10 queries

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25