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Old 11-22-2009, 05:44 PM   #1231
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He played well but when it really counted and when it was clutch time he throws across his body what into what looked like double coverage instead of tucking it down and running. As Gibbs said...." it comes down to whether or not a guy can drive you down the field when the game is one the line and win it for you". I just knew that we were not going to get into FG position...I knew it.
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Old 11-22-2009, 07:24 PM   #1232
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Wow talk about lowered expectations...

I guess by the generous yardstick being used here yes, he didn't take as many unecessary sacks, he didn't fumble any center exchanges, he didn't get the ball stripped running around with it at his hip in one hand, he only threw 1 int versus no TD's and he actually made a play with his feet that was impressive rather than scary or disapointing...

So if we're all okay with a nearly decent not quite mediocre QB performance then yes he's obviously the QB of the future.
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Old 11-22-2009, 07:53 PM   #1233
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I have not been a JC supporter as of late,I was sure I wanted him gone next season.But I have to say I think hes played well the past 3 games.His descisions and plays he made with his feet have impressed me.I'm torn,I was so sure I wanted him gone,now im thinking well maybe hes not that bad.Oh well,6 more games to evaluate him.
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Old 11-22-2009, 09:10 PM   #1234
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Thank goodness he's not a lefty. Becuase Heyer protecting his blind side would be hellacious. Heyer was getting blown up all day long.
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Old 11-22-2009, 09:15 PM   #1235
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This organization is going to have a very tough time letting Jason Campbell go next year and they had better have a really good option if they do.

I really think this team has held him back. I could see him, dare I say it, thrive somewhere like Oakland. I'm serious. They don't have the team that we do, but I think Campbell stats would go through the roof if we ever put the game in his hands.
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Old 11-22-2009, 09:27 PM   #1236
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I thought JC made some good quick throws with ppl in his face for the most part. I cant really point out a play where i caught myself second guessing what he did under the circumstances. We didnt get the ball in the endzone but i was feeling good about how we got the youngsters involved in the game. MK had a good play and DT is showing signs of "getting it" while Davis has done a good job filling in for Cooley. I hate to see us lose in a game where our defense played their butts off, but there where plays that were there to be made that could have turned the outcome. We have to make those to get off of this slide we are on. lets hope we can turn it around these next few games and at least have some positives as we look to the future of our team.
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Old 11-22-2009, 09:32 PM   #1237
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news flash campbell is not an accurate passer!!!!!!!!!!!

he is a game manager nothing more nothing less

and did i mention he's not accurate, cause he isn't, not even close, not at all
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Old 11-22-2009, 10:05 PM   #1238
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news flash campbell is not an accurate passer!!!!!!!!!!!

he is a game manager nothing more nothing less

and did i mention he's not accurate, cause he isn't, not even close, not at all
I know you have your mind made up about Campbell, but Romo missed a ton of throws today. He was far worse than Campbell. And as we speak, I'm watching Cutler miss two wide open guys in the end zone. So much for the Cutler v Campbell debate.
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Old 11-22-2009, 10:23 PM   #1239
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ok i know cutler is/was a decent qb in denver, but wtf is the deal with (almost)EVERYONE thinking he is a great qb? granted he has put up some good numbers but wtf everyone makes excuses for this guy i don't get it, i just watched sports center and they claim that 3 of the int's in the san fran game were not his fault(he threw 5), i'm sorry i guess i really don't see what everyone else does, i see this guy as a mediocre qb and nothing more seriously wtf has he done to get so much praise

my thoughts on cutler from the cutler thread
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Old 11-22-2009, 10:35 PM   #1240
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Thank goodness he's not a lefty. Becuase Heyer protecting his blind side would be hellacious. Heyer was getting blown up all day long.
Yeah he was either getting tossed around like a rag doll or he was committing false starts. Talk about a guy I'm fed up with. All I know is he sure as hell better not be back as a starter next year.
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ok i know cutler is/was a decent qb in denver, but wtf is the deal with (almost)EVERYONE thinking he is a great qb? granted he has put up some good numbers but wtf everyone makes excuses for this guy i don't get it, i just watched sports center and they claim that 3 of the int's in the san fran game were not his fault(he threw 5), i'm sorry i guess i really don't see what everyone else does, i see this guy as a mediocre qb and nothing more seriously wtf has he done to get so much praise

my thoughts on cutler from the cutler thread
No kidding. Imagine if we gave up a couple of first rounders for this bum?
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:08 AM   #1242
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Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie

UPDATED stats/assessment...all 3 QBs' teams lost, fair comparison!


Cutler:
WK 11 - 24/43 (55.8%), 171 yds, 1 TD, 1 INT, 63.2 rating, 11 rush yds
TOTAL: 235/381 (61.7%), 2,524 yds, 15 TD, 18 INT, 74.5 rating, 122 rush yds

Sanchez:
WK 11 - 8/21 (38.1%), 136 yds, 1 TD, 4 INT, 37.1 rating, 2 rush yds
TOTAL: 138/265 (52.1%), 1,791 yds, 10 TD, 16 INT, 61.1 rating, 62 rush yds

Campbell:
WK 11 - 24/37 (64.9%), 256 yds, 0 TD, 1 INT, 73.7 rating, 0 rush yds
TOTAL: 192/291 (66.0%), 2,126 yds, 10 TD, 9 INT, 86.1 rating, 158 rush yds


Ranks:
Comp. % = Campbell (66.0%), Cutler (61.7%), Sanchez (52.1%)
Yds = Cutler (2,524) Campbell (2,216) Sanchez (1,791)
TDs = Cutler (15), Campbell/Sanchez (10)
INTs (fewest) = Campbell (9), Sanchez (16), Cutler (18)
QB rating = Campbell (86.1), Cutler (74.5), Sanchez (61.1)
Rush yds = Campbell (158), Cutler (122), Sanchez(62)


Week 11 Campbell overview:
Campbell's offensive teammates continue to disappear to injury. First his offensive line, then Portis and Cooley, now Ladell Betts is gone with torn knee ligaments, just as soon as he began providing a huge spark to the slow offense in the previous 6 quarters. Now, the Redskins are using their kick returner and an unknown guy they just picked up again as their running game. However, despite the losses, Jason Campbell continues to be steady if not impressive considering the avalanche. One play that really impressed me in the game vs. Dallas was the spin move and escape from a sure sack, then finding Devin Thomas downfield for a 26-yard gain. Campbell spread the ball around well on Sunday, finding seven different receivers and finally getting Santana Moss involved with five catches. Jason could not manage any touchdowns and had one interception, but otherwise had a solid game, completing 64.9% of his passes (24/37) for 256 yards. His counterpart, Tony Romo only threw for 158 yards at a 55% rate, also with a pick.

Jay Cutler had another unimpressive, unproductive game. He threw for only 171 yards, despite attempting 43 passes! He barely completed half of his passes and added yet another interception to his total, now at 18, exactly double the number of picks thrown by Jason Campbell.

Mark Sanchez may be finding himself on the bench soon if he continues his horrid play. In Week 11, he was a shocking 8/21 passing, that's a 38% completion rate. Somehow he managed 136 yards and a TD, but threw FOUR INTERCEPTIONS. He's catching up to Jay Cutler for the NFL's interception lead, now with 16...second only to Cutler's 18 for the most INTs thrown this year.

Jason Campbell's QB rating of 86.1 remains at 16th best in the league, just behind Carson Palmer. Cutler is 24th and Sanchez is near the bottom for starting QBs, ranked 31st in the stat. JC is also catching up to Cutler in yardage with solid totals the last few weeks.

Yet another week that Campbell is the only of these three QBs who not only did not hurt his team badly by poor performance, but was actually the only one that put up respectable numbers.
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:17 AM   #1243
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I really wanted Cutler and Sanchez to have awful seasons (petty I know) because of the offseason drama. And I would be loving life, if we had the corresponding excellent season I had hoped for. Now it is just not as fun...
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:50 AM   #1244
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I really wanted Cutler and Sanchez to have awful seasons (petty I know) because of the offseason drama. And I would be loving life, if we had the corresponding excellent season I had hoped for. Now it is just not as fun...

2 outta 3 isn't bad.

I was also hoping for a huge breakout year from Campbell, but he just doesn't have a team around him OR coaches that will allow it. I am happy with what he has been able to do and think he's earned a return. He's clearly better than the possible replacements for him, even working with less talent and more chaos.
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Old 11-23-2009, 12:28 PM   #1245
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UPDATED stats/assessment...all 3 QBs' teams lost, fair comparison!



Campbell:
WK 11 - 24/37 (64.9%), 256 yds, TD, 1 INT, 73.7 rating, 0 rush yds
TOTAL: 192/291 (66.0%), 2,126 yds, 10 TD, 9 INT, 86.1 rating, 158 rush yds



Jason Campbell's QB rating of 86.1 remains at 16th best in the league,
maybe im reading this wrong but i didnt know we scored a TD this week. i have a feeling im missing something.

and 16th in the league sounds about right, w/out all the injuries on offense i could see him just outside the top 10 for qbs.

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