Doughty to start over Horton

30gut · 10-01-2009, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by franklinhimself

Landry was going to be our sure starter for SS to pair him with the Meast for the next 10 years. Although Landry can run a 4.3 and thus cover sideline to sideline, his college position was SS.
I agree that I'd like to see Moore get a bit more playing time, and see Landry at SS, but then the dilemma is how to use Horton/Doughty

Don't start this again he was FS in college and his entire life except when he came here b/c ST21 was one of the best FS in the game the moved Landry to SS.

44Deezel · 10-01-2009, 09:48 PM

Won't make a bit of difference. If they want to make an impact, bring in Marko, Mason, Alridge, Jarmon and Wilson.

44Deezel · 10-01-2009, 10:00 PM

So the one guy making a significant impact from the 2008 draft is losing his starting job. Good job Vinny. 11 draft picks, no one making that big of a difference.

SeanTaGodsSafety · 10-02-2009, 06:01 AM

I sReed Doughty the answer to all the problems we have on defense?

Lotus · 10-02-2009, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 44Deezel

So the one guy making a significant impact from the 2008 draft is losing his starting job. Good job Vinny. 11 draft picks, no one making that big of a difference.

Rinehart and Kelly both have started on offense. Moore has been a starter on defense. Devin Thomas and Fred Davis have contributed, albeit not much.

Once again we see, on one side, people saying that the team should build through the draft. On the other side we see fans being too impatient with such a process, because developing young players takes time.

SmootSmack · 10-02-2009, 08:26 AM

This isn't meant to be a comparison of the Patriots and Redskins front offices...but the Patriots had 9 picks in 2007, 1 is a starter, 1 is the equivalent of Byron Westbrook, and the rest are off the team.

In 2008 the Patriots had 7 picks, 1 starter, 3 backups, the rest off the team

Defensewins · 10-02-2009, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 30gut

Don't start this again he was FS in college and his entire life except when he came here b/c ST21 was one of the best FS in the game the moved Landry to SS.

Thank you for pointing this out. Landry was a FS at LSU.

Regarding the change to Doughty from Horton...this means very little. The defense is not going to suddenly become the Steel Curtain defense with this change. The problems to our defense is in its scheme and coaching.

On that note, last night on the NFL network, they were talking very highly about Greg Williams and his defenses. How much respect he has around the league. Rod Woodson loves Gregg Williams.

Defensewins · 10-02-2009, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

Rinehart and Kelly both have started on offense. Moore has been a starter on defense. Devin Thomas and Fred Davis have contributed, albeit not much.

Once again we see, on one side, people saying that the team should build through the draft. On the other side we see fans being too impatient with such a process, because developing young players takes time.

It doesn't have to if you draft well and you a good core of players already on the team that will play around a rookie.

Trample the Elderly · 10-02-2009, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SeanTaGodsSafety

I sReed Doughty the answer to all the problems we have on defense?

Eff yeah! You didn't know?

He is a good player on defense and special teams. There's nothing special to him. He just gives all that he has. That's a lot more than I can say for some of our players.

Defensewins · 10-02-2009, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SeanTaGodsSafety

I sReed Doughty the answer to all the problems we have on defense?

No he is not.

PennSkinsFan · 10-02-2009, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SeanTaGodsSafety

I sReed Doughty the answer to all the problems we have on defense?

The answer: No. But, he is playing better than Horton. That's a start. Playing favorties doesn't make winners. It's called accountability. Perhaps we should also be starting Marko Mitchell and hold Thomas and kelly accountable too.

pg86 · 10-02-2009, 01:47 PM

I retract my previous statement...Reed plays with alot of heart!

53Fan · 10-02-2009, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by PennSkinsFan

The answer: No. But, he is playing better than Horton. That's a start. Playing favorties doesn't make winners. It's called accountability. Perhaps we should also be starting Marko Mitchell and hold Thomas and kelly accountable too.

I agree. Start who is playing the best right now. Horton will still play alot. I'm expecting more blitzing w/Doughty starting. He has played very well and looks like the best blitz option we have right now. He has performed well and executes the plays correctly. He's solid.

JGisLordOfTheRings · 10-02-2009, 11:06 PM

[quote=dmvskinzfan08;600581][quote=Dirtbag359;600517]See I keep hearing this but the fact of the matter is that Landry was probably at his best as a pro during the second half of 2007 when he took over at FS. I still can't figure out though if Landry's drop off is due mainly to Blache's scheme or Landry's fundamentals.

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I totally agree. He rarely is a position to make a play in this scheme. I remember when we played Seattle in the playoffs and he had 2 INTS adn was playing lights out. I was like whoa. He hasn't been the same yet. I think Blache is mainly to blame. Seems like ever since he got trucked by Jacobs he hasn't been the same either.

That's truly where it all seems to stem from. After that game, Landry got NOTICABLY more tattoos and piercings and started playing like shit. I think the fact that he got run over hurt his pride, which he showed by tats and piercings. Instead of making big hits and going for the ball, it seems to wants to make a highlight reel nailing somebody so bad it's screwing up his play.

Green1 · 10-04-2009, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

I'm thinking they'll probably put Horton in for most coverage plays. Try to keep doughty in on plays like blitzes, etc. For the run stop basically.

I agree, but I think that Horton has a nose for the ball, in almost every turnover he is there.

10-01-2009, 09:48 PM	#32
44Deezel The Starter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Davidsonville Posts: 1,434	Re: Doughty to start over Horton Won't make a bit of difference. If they want to make an impact, bring in Marko, Mason, Alridge, Jarmon and Wilson. __________________ I am a system poster.

10-01-2009, 10:00 PM	#33
44Deezel The Starter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Davidsonville Posts: 1,434	Re: Doughty to start over Horton So the one guy making a significant impact from the 2008 draft is losing his starting job. Good job Vinny. 11 draft picks, no one making that big of a difference. __________________ I am a system poster.

10-02-2009, 06:01 AM	#34
SeanTaGodsSafety Camp Scrub Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 70	Re: Doughty to start over Horton I sReed Doughty the answer to all the problems we have on defense? __________________ "It's almost like we play a kids game for a king's ransom, and if you dont take it seriously enough, one day you're gonna say, oh I could have did this or I could have did that" Sean Taylor

10-02-2009, 08:26 AM	#36
SmootSmack Mad Men Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,098	Re: Doughty to start over Horton This isn't meant to be a comparison of the Patriots and Redskins front offices...but the Patriots had 9 picks in 2007, 1 is a starter, 1 is the equivalent of Byron Westbrook, and the rest are off the team. In 2008 the Patriots had 7 picks, 1 starter, 3 backups, the rest off the team __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

10-02-2009, 01:47 PM	#42
pg86 No new threads for you Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,959	Re: Doughty to start over Horton I retract my previous statement...Reed plays with alot of heart!

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