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Old 10-09-2009, 07:06 PM   #181
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I say we hire Bobby Beathard as a consultant to the GM. I think we need another set of eyes to help with player management....fair is fair. Are there mirrors in the FO for them to look at themselves? Double Standard!
Now THAT'S a good idea.

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Old 10-09-2009, 07:16 PM   #182
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Bobby is 72........
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Old 10-09-2009, 08:12 PM   #183
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So...Sherman Lewis is 67. Are your saying Bobby is too old? Bobby still surfs in San Diego.
I was kind of kidding about bringing in Bobby to be consultant to Cerratto. I was just trying to raise the point of the double standard that exists with the Redskins and how the FO is not held accountable because the owner is one of the two heads in this two headed monster. If DS admitted the the FO is not pulling its weight that would mean he is not doing a good job and we all know that would never happen. Cerratto has been with the organization a long time and he seems untouchable.
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Old 10-09-2009, 08:33 PM   #184
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so... i guess i'm in the minority who thinks this is a bad, bad idea. hiring a consultant is fine but this is NOT the way to do it. it's pretty clear by now zorn did not want this. just listen to all the effin paranoia on this thread. i know we're fans, but don't you think a thought or two like this might go through the staff/locker room. i totally agree with wilbon and especially jenkins (can't beleive i'm writing that last one) on this: this is compulsively bad management. if you've ever experienced it, this has the signs. personally i'm for "fire snyder" signs at games. seriously.
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Old 10-09-2009, 09:22 PM   #185
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Here's a pretty good article on the subject:

Redskins Must Learn From Sherman Lewis' Wisdom -- NFL FanHouse
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Old 10-09-2009, 09:49 PM   #186
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Here's a pretty good article on the subject:

Redskins Must Learn From Sherman Lewis' Wisdom -- NFL FanHouse
Twas a good article. The thing that caught my eye most: he was WR coach for the niners when they won 3 SB!!!

...at this point this could turn out to be a genius move but it could also be a real disruption. Best case scenario Lewis is really in DC to replace Hixon for the year and get the young members of the WR corp playing like legit NFL receivers. Not sure why the FO didn't just can Hixon and install Lewis directly but this franchise does EVERYTHING screwy (who the hell assembles all the assistants before trying to bring in an HC?). Worst case scenario Lewis doesn't have a specific task and ends up butting heads w/ Zorn, creating distraction and tension.

...guess we'll all find out together
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Old 10-09-2009, 11:13 PM   #187
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Anybody read Mike Wise's column yesterday? A good read. This speculation I found very interesting:


A conspiracy theorist might connect the dots and the timeline, which appeared fuzzy on Wednesday, like this: Lewis spends time with an old friend, Greg Blache, the Redskins' defensive coordinator whom he worked with for two years in Green Bay, before the Detroit-Washington game at the team hotel. Blache is a motivator of great renown, thought of highly by Snyder. If things go abysmally south the next three weeks, Blache is asked to take bullets as the interim head coach until season's end. At the least, Blache has got a guy he knows with a little play-calling experience to have his back in the event Zorn and Smith can't put Humpty Dumpty back together again by the bye week.

By then, Lewis has almost a month under his belt of learning personnel, plays and players.
Insular Ashburn says that's cynical thinking, jaded even. They say Lewis has worked with Brett Favre, Steve Young, Joe Montana, Bill Walsh and Mike Holmgren -- so why not Campbell and Zorn? Since Zorn is basically a young Jedi learning the ways of the Force, to the point of his light saber needing new D batteries in the red zone, why not bring in Yoda for reinforcement?

Whom do I believe? Charley Casserly, the former general manager of the team, is normally a close-to-the-vest man in his new life as a football analyst on television. In his first thoughts after the hire, he called the addition of Lewis the "kiss of death" for Zorn.



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Old 10-10-2009, 04:07 AM   #188
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but lets look at the pot calling the Kettle black. I believe you fans were ready to take off Coughlins head before the second yr.
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Winning will stop any bitching,wasn't a Coughlin fan but he earned the right and now a'ALL" the players are behind him.This is more about ownership and ...............and I wasn't calling anyone anything.
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Old 10-10-2009, 04:33 AM   #189
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I think this is really the kiss of death for Sherman Smith. It is in the realm of possibility that Synder keeps Zorn and fires Smith for Lewis, if things don't improve.
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Old 10-10-2009, 05:50 AM   #190
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I think this is really the kiss of death for Sherman Smith. It is in the realm of possibility that Synder keeps Zorn and fires Smith for Lewis, if things don't improve.
Zorn brought Sherman Smith in though. He actually had to do some convincing beforehand to pry him away from the Titans job. It would be pretty gutless to let your man go and just shrug it off like that. Especially considering Smith is one of only guys you brought in.

There has to be limitations to Zorn's constitution. You just can't continue to be undermined and be fine with it. You have to stand up at some point. Money and personal advancement is great but your professional credibility has to come into play when you're in charge.
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Unfortunately I think the writing is on the wall. Snyder is a rich prick. To fire Zorn before seasons end is premature, but we've seen it before. Why would true Skins fans expect otherwise? Why can't Gibbs Racing buy the team? FUCK. (Sorry for the curse words, but I'm really pissed).
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Lewis will see their a few problems fixable thou but we need better WR's coaching & he will put in more time with them.
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Old 10-10-2009, 08:52 AM   #193
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Too bad. Clearly this Sherman Lewis move is just more owner meddling with the team, and is destroying the team. Reminds me of when Gibbs was forced to give up his offensive coordinator role to whats-his-face (what could've happened if he kept it??). Sure, Lewis not a big move -- but it undermines the coach & team, and the team chemistry is falling apart. Sherman Smith is upset about Sherman Lewis, Portis is fighting with Sellers, Blache stopped talking to the media, and Zorn -- well, he's a *good guy* -- but how much respect does the team give him if they know he won't be there for long..

I think their drafts have been suspect & their free agent moves have often failed, and they just keep changing coaches and putting them at fault.

So looking back two years ago with the often talked about 3 second round picks... What if.. What if we actually drafted an offensive line two years ago?? INSTEAD of the receivers and TE we have that combined for -1 yard -- and actually drafted for NEED? Guess hindsight will tell us, but so far I just WISH we had a line that could actually create holes for Portis and betts. I just look at the HUGE running lanes that other running backs get down the middle of the field and I salivate....
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^"So looking back two years ago with the often talked about 3 second round picks... What if.. What if we actually drafted an offensive line two years ago?? INSTEAD of the receivers and TE we have that combined for -1 yard -- and actually drafted for NEED? Guess hindsight will tell us, but so far I just WISH we had a line that could actually create holes for Portis and betts. I just look at the HUGE running lanes that other running backs get down the middle of the field and I salivate...."

See thinking ahead and planning with your draft is how you building championship teams, WE DONT DO THAT HERE IN WASHINGTON. Our FO strategy is knee jerk reactions and plug hole strategy. Send draft picks away and then overpay free agents who never perform at their pay level. God, go to the salary cap central page here and prepare to throw up...my favs are Andre Carter, Portis and ARE contracts personally. There was an thread up here a couple months ago about "why we are the laughing stock of the NFL", its a direct result of are FO management. So far our play contributes to that laughing stock title as well hiring Bingo-callers and our D Cord being too sensative to reporters questions. Back to our 3 draft picks of the second round, you seen their play so far this year, might as well be ghosts out on the field because we getting goose eggs contributions from them. Its really just sicking to watch us hit bottom.
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Too bad. Clearly this Sherman Lewis move is just more owner meddling with the team, and is destroying the team. Reminds me of when Gibbs was forced to give up his offensive coordinator role to whats-his-face (what could've happened if he kept it??). Sure, Lewis not a big move -- but it undermines the coach & team, and the team chemistry is falling apart. Sherman Smith is upset about Sherman Lewis, Portis is fighting with Sellers, Blache stopped talking to the media, and Zorn -- well, he's a *good guy* -- but how much respect does the team give him if they know he won't be there for long..

I think their drafts have been suspect & their free agent moves have often failed, and they just keep changing coaches and putting them at fault.

So looking back two years ago with the often talked about 3 second round picks... What if.. What if we actually drafted an offensive line two years ago?? INSTEAD of the receivers and TE we have that combined for -1 yard -- and actually drafted for NEED? Guess hindsight will tell us, but so far I just WISH we had a line that could actually create holes for Portis and betts. I just look at the HUGE running lanes that other running backs get down the middle of the field and I salivate....
Gibbs was forced to hire Saunders?

Interesting.

Got any concrete evidence of that?
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