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Old 10-07-2009, 07:11 AM   #91
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Business people often bring in consultants. Snyder is a businessman and Vinny has been involved in bringing in consultants before, they did it in SF while Vinny was there. Lewis is an expert on the WCO and nobody else on Zorns staff is as far as I know. Gibbs didn't lose his job when they brought Saunders in. I don't think there is any subtraction in this addition, at least not for Zorn, unless we fail to progress on offense.
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Old 10-07-2009, 07:27 AM   #92
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[quote=Luxorreb;603704]Zorn hopefully will improve with an offensive consultant, but what does that mean that Sherman Smith has been doing? I agree Zorn has too much on his plate, but he's managing a struggling 2-2 record still... Zorn is not a bad guy or necessarily bad coach. Players like him, people like him. He is inexperienced as a play caller, OC, HC. Even if Holmgren comes to DC (and I'd still rather have Shanahan) I would think Jim Zorn would still have a job. We need a GM. Things that bother me about Holmgren are facts such as Hasselbeck being his QB. To blame Zorn is too easy at this point. Danny needs to let someone with football knowledge run this team as a GM. No more Cerrato and no more Snyder rich kid in a candy store crap. Deion and Bruce don't get ya Superbowls. It's people like Art Monk, Darrell Green, Clint Didier, Doug Williams, John Riggins, Geris White, Gary Clark, Virgil Seay, etc, etc, etc."


Good post, and as you say the Dan needs to grow up on the quick trigger....
Maybe this is an indication of that coming to fruition? I cannot imagine that the entire staff will remain intact or that it should as the team obviously is.....challenged in all area's. Perhaps changing the structure to some degree, and adding some support will serve better than blowing it up?
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Old 10-07-2009, 07:34 AM   #93
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I'm glad to see that the front office is taking steps to help improve the offense by bringing in a coach like Sherman Lewis with his west coast back ground. This move means we need help to get the offense more production which could help both Zorn and our young WR corp. I respect Zorn more for being open to this idea to bring in a coach with so much experience that it can only improve our team. Lets hope Lewis can design some plays to get our WR open.
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Old 10-07-2009, 08:00 AM   #94
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I think its a good move. Zorn needs help with playcalling. So he can stop calling that same running play ever 1st down. I think if Sherman Lewis helps the O, Zorn will be fired.
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Old 10-07-2009, 08:45 AM   #95
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I'm glad to see that the front office is taking steps to help improve the offense by bringing in a coach like Sherman Lewis with his west coast back ground. This move means we need help to get the offense more production which could help both Zorn and our young WR corp. I respect Zorn more for being open to this idea to bring in a coach with so much experience that it can only improve our team. Lets hope Lewis can design some plays to get our WR open.
The core of the problem is that the Skins just dont have the talent. This addition wont hurt but I dont look for much difference since its still the same players that have proven over and over that they just dont have it.
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Old 10-07-2009, 08:55 AM   #96
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Lets be honest, Cerrato is doing everything possible save his job. If this team doesnt turn around or doesnt establish itself for the upcoming years. He will be joining Jim Zorn in the unemployment line.
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Old 10-07-2009, 08:59 AM   #97
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Bottom line is toooooooo late. What are the chances we are running the same offense next year with the same head coach and quarterback? I would think relatively low...Now it would be a great story if he comes in and waves a magical wand and everything is good and we make the playoffs, but midseason? Too little, too late. Maybe he can line up at RT or replace Reinhart at guard...but I think a little too late to address O-Line issues as well.
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Old 10-07-2009, 09:16 AM   #98
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Hold your horses Skinsfan69. Who hired Zorn? All the football critics thought that was a very disfunctional move to hire Zorn to be the QB coach and then make him the HC. If Zorn is fired during or after the season this will only further prove to all the football critics that Synder stills has no clue how to run a NFL Team. I think we need to be fair and see how Zorn finishes out the season to judge him. I do like this move to bring in Sherm Lewis who has a ton of WC offense experience.
We're going on 12 games of almost unwatchable offense. Someone is going to take the fall.
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Old 10-07-2009, 09:17 AM   #99
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Now can we bring in a consultant to look over the front office??? lol.
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Old 10-07-2009, 09:25 AM   #100
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Now can we bring in a consultant to look over the front office??? lol.
That would make way too much sense.
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Old 10-07-2009, 09:25 AM   #101
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Lets be honest, Cerrato is doing everything possible save his job. If this team doesnt turn around or doesnt establish itself for the upcoming years. He will be joining Jim Zorn in the unemployment line.
Vinny's not going anywhere no matter what happens.
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Old 10-07-2009, 09:37 AM   #102
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Zorn hopefully will improve with an offensive consultant, but what does that mean that Sherman Smith has been doing? I agree Zorn has too much on his plate, but he's managing a struggling 2-2 record still... Zorn is not a bad guy or necessarily bad coach. Players like him, people like him. He is inexperienced as a play caller, OC, HC. Even if Holmgren comes to DC (and I'd still rather have Shanahan) I would think Jim Zorn would still have a job. We need a GM. Things that bother me about Holmgren are facts such as Hasselbeck being his QB. To blame Zorn is too easy at this point. Danny needs to let someone with football knowledge run this team as a GM. No more Cerrato and no more Snyder rich kid in a candy store crap. Deion and Bruce don't get ya Superbowls. It's people like Art Monk, Darrell Green, Clint Didier, Doug Williams, John Riggins, Geris White, Gary Clark, Virgil Seay, etc, etc, etc.
How does having Hasselback as his QB bother you? Deion, a two-time SB winner, and Bruce Smith who has been to four himself was 9 years ago. We can't let that go?

As for guys like Art Monk, Darrell Green, Clint Didier etc. getting us Superbowls. Before they won a Superbowl they were Santana Moss, Carlos Rogers, Chris Cooley. I guess my point is I don't understand what your point is to ramble off those names from the past.
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Vinny's not going anywhere no matter what happens.
I really think the Lions lost was a bottom for this team and the way fans and media have jumped all over this coaching staff and the players was a real wake up call to Snyder. I think he has really heard the displeasure with fans booing at the stadium, Sonny going after Zorn, the National media criticizing Snyder, and the play, lets face it, it has been poor, especially on the offense. I really believe Vinny could be gone if we dont make the playoffs...which I wanted him gone for years, so Im pretty excited this could finally happen.
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Old 10-07-2009, 10:27 AM   #104
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Vinny's not going anywhere no matter what happens.
When Zorn was hired, Vinny told reporters that he had 2 years to succeed or he would be fired.
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Old 10-07-2009, 10:29 AM   #105
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I really wish we could go 5 minutes without Snyderatto trying to "fix" things. The Redskins are composed completely now of all their various "fixes". How many times have they gone fishing for a RB after the season is underway? It' absurd. I know it's hard to accept when you have control issues, but there's nothing you can do about it now. So stifle yourselves.

Also remember, The Two Bobs came to the conclusion that MANAGEMENT was the real problem. I just wish the Redskins had TPS reports to tie down Vinny so he couldn't engage in these monkeyshines.
Ok, now I'm confused? People complain that the offense is horrible and needs to be fixed. Snyder gives Zorn what...19 games to fix the issues and we are not getting any better. He calls in a consultant to look at maybe the playcalls, when there being called, maybe the look at the WR and see if he can't get anything out of Kelly/Thomas/and maybe Mitchell.

and now we are going to complain that Snyder is meddling again? Help me out here, I would assume the Zorn experement is just about over and Snyder is trying one last thing to spark this so called " Scoring Machine" that Zorn was going to bring to the table. This guys has been in San Fran at the beginning of the WCO. He practically bailed out Holmgren in GB when he was brought in. He's helped out Shanahan and I thought I heard on the radio he helped out Dennis Green. This guy is the Zampese of the WCO and now we want to get upset. OK.
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