Warpath  

Home | Forums | Salary Cap Info | Shop | Donate | Stay Connected




Go Back   Warpath > Redskins Forums > Redskins Locker Room


Latest Sporting News Mock Draft- Williams at #5 to Skins?

Redskins Locker Room


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-08-2004, 05:22 PM   #16
What will Shanny do this offseason?
 
diehardskin2982's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,318
if we do get him ya know Rod Gardner will end up being a Chief next year. If not that the release of McCants sorry to see that happen.
diehardskin2982 is offline   Reply With Quote

Advertisements
Old 03-08-2004, 05:25 PM   #17
Special Teams
 
Ade Jimoh Fan Club's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 410
Gardner is gonna be a stud if everyone gets off his back and gives him a chance already!!!
Ade Jimoh Fan Club is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2004, 05:53 PM   #18
Special Teams
 
johnnyredskin63's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 203
gardner will be a redskin next year,he may leave after FA but he will be a redskin in the 2004 season.
__________________
it's me,bigredskinfan63
bigledzepfan63
"the sea was red and the sky was grey,wondered how tommorow could ever follow today
HAIL TO THE REDSKINS
always remember ladies and germs-THE COWBOYS SUCK
johnnyredskin63 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2004, 06:04 PM   #19
Eternally Legendary
 
saden1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Seattle
Age: 34
Posts: 9,858
Skins will most likely trade down to get a second or 3rd round pick. If they don’t they’d better have a good reason not to.
saden1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2004, 06:11 PM   #20
Special Teams
 
johnnyredskin63's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 203
it will be either winslow or taylor.i can't see them trading down,they do not have much cap room left.
__________________
it's me,bigredskinfan63
bigledzepfan63
"the sea was red and the sky was grey,wondered how tommorow could ever follow today
HAIL TO THE REDSKINS
always remember ladies and germs-THE COWBOYS SUCK
johnnyredskin63 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2004, 06:34 PM   #21
The Starter
 
joecrisp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Charlottesville, VA
Age: 38
Posts: 1,501
Quote:
Originally Posted by hi-jinx
Since if we sign Butler from the Rams we will only be about 1 million under the cap I got to believe we are going to trade down. Thats not enough green to sign a top five guy and since we only have to 2 picks this year I think we would be better off trading own to get a D-lineman.
Don't forget, the Skins could still release Larry Moore, Trung Canidate and/or Byron Chamberlain and free up around $2.5 million. But I tend to think the Skins will be trading down to the middle of the first round, and picking up a guy like Udeze. I don't think the Rams will match on Butler's offer sheet, so the Skins will only have one pick. Outside of Sean Taylor, it would be tough to justify taking a defensive guy at the #5 spot, when so much premier offensive talent would be available to attract bidders for a trade. I find it hard to believe that the Skins are comfortable going into next season without a significant pass rusher on the D-line (despite Gregg Williams' recent assurances they are prepared to do so), so the most logical move would seem to be trading down to the middle of the first round, where they can get the pass rusher they need, and also pick up at least a 2nd rounder, probably more. Until the draft comes, you can be assured that the Skins will play up the idea of using the #5 pick, possibly on an offensive guy, to rally more bidders for a trade.
joecrisp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2004, 06:50 PM   #22
Special Teams
 
Scott's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 177
My thoughts exactly Joe, we will definitely be making more room in the salary cap with cuts, right now we have a lot of players that have already been replaced...
Scott is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2004, 10:14 PM   #23
Playmaker
 
skinsfanthru&thru's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Richmond, VA
Age: 33
Posts: 3,708
mike williams isn't even the best williams wr in the draft so why would we draft him. I know he's a good wr but if we were to draft one hopefully after trading down, I say we draft Roy Williams. he's the best overall wr physically and skillwise.
skinsfanthru&thru is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2004, 11:38 PM   #24
Puppy Kicker
 
Daseal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Arlington, Virginia
Age: 31
Posts: 8,210
Amen, Roy Williams is by far the superior WR in this draft. I love how he's been tearing it up consistantly forever.

Either way I want Taylor.

I don't think our D line is in trouble at all. We got decent hard working D linemen and we still might get more. Plus with Taylor an abundance of D backs and linebackers to rush. I think we'll be fine provided the D line gets a little push and our blitzers come free!
Daseal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2004, 12:19 AM   #25
Special Teams
 
Ghost's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 298
I hope they trade down and somehow come up with Udeze and Jake Grove if he slips. Grove is the missing piece on the OL and Gibbs likes him.
Ghost is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2004, 12:26 AM   #26
Franchise Player
 
Sheriff Gonna Getcha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Age: 35
Posts: 8,317
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnyredskin63
it will be either winslow or taylor.i can't see them trading down,they do not have much cap room left.
Actually, trading down would be much more cap friendly (depending on the position played by the guy we draft at #5). If we pick a d-lineman at the #5 pick we're looking at a SB of about $11-13 million and a contract averaging between $4-$6 million per year.

If we took Taylor I'm not how much that would cost since I don't have a frame of refernce - no safety has been drafted at #5 in recent memory (if at all).

Trading down to say the #20 pick and getting another 2nd or 3rd rounder would be nice and easy on the cap since the difference in salary between a #5 pick and a #20 pick is outrageous given that the talent level is not immensely different. A second or third round rookie contract wouldn't cost much at all.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2004, 01:59 PM   #27
Playmaker
 
skinsfanthru&thru's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Richmond, VA
Age: 33
Posts: 3,708
with some trades going on, does anyone know what teams have the first couple picks in the second round? I ask because if any of these mock drafts are close to being accurate, grove will be gone by around pick 5 in the second round. is there anyone we could trade with to still get a first rounder plus one of those picks in the 2nd? the only way I see us getting a decent 2nd round pick is if we trade down in the first round from our spot and then trade down again completely out of the first round with one of the teams who had a top four pick and get their 2nd,3rd, and 4th/5th rounders. either way I agree with a lot of you and think our cap space is going to dictate that we have to trade down atleast once if not twice.
skinsfanthru&thru is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2004, 03:48 PM   #28
Special Teams
 
Ghost's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 298
Sounds to me like Udeze could be a special player ... it's just that there seem to be a lot of special players in the top half of the first round and that's driving his stock down.
Ghost is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2004, 03:52 PM   #29
The Starter
 
joecrisp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Charlottesville, VA
Age: 38
Posts: 1,501
Quote:
Originally Posted by offiss
The 1 prob. with that is getting an impact pass rushing end in the middle of the rd. I don't think it can be done unless we get lucky, who would you take that would make that kind of an impact in the middle of the 1st? Drafting a defensive end isn't a prob. but if we draft a guy in the middle of the first we will be looking next year for another D-end and we won't have taylor to show for this draft, mediocur D-end's are a dime a dozen, If the guy isn't special don't waste a pick on him.
Guys like Kenechi Udeze, Will Smith, Randy Starks, Darnell Dockett, and Vince Wilfork have all been projected as sub-top ten picks who could be available in the middle to bottom of the first round. All would probably be immediate starters and significant upgrades on the D-line. If the Skins pick up one of those guys and get another pick or two to land a tight end and/or safety, I'd be happy. Yes, Taylor is almost a sure thing, but any one of the afore-mentioned D-linemen could be standouts in their rookie year as well. I'll be happy either way. I certainly wouldn't be disappointed to see them pickup Taylor at #5.
joecrisp is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:00 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site is not officially affiliated with the Washington Redskins or the NFL.
Page generated in 0.25993 seconds with 9 queries

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25