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Old 10-11-2009, 07:59 PM   #46
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Re: Updated/Merged: Shanahan Rumors (Will He or Won't He?)

If I remember correctly (feel free to correct me) he did with Marty. But we all know how that ended. Depends, he either is going to throw a lot of money his way or give him full control, hopefully the the latter rather than the former.
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Old 10-11-2009, 08:04 PM   #47
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Unless Shanahan gets total control he is not coming to DC.

Anyone think that Snyder will give him total autonomy?
He shouldn't but he would
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Old 10-11-2009, 08:05 PM   #48
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Full autonomy to Mike Shanahan is like a bad organization finding a new way to be a bad organization, with all the transitional troubles that comes with.
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Old 10-11-2009, 08:08 PM   #49
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Unless Shanahan gets total control he is not coming to DC.

Anyone think that Snyder will give him total autonomy?
who was the gm in denver when shanny was coach.
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I feel bad for Jim Zorn. Yes, he was in over his head, and he hasn't shown much as a game planner or play caller, but in all honesty, he's got NOTHING to work with here.

The players he has are pretty much crap.
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who was the gm in denver when shanny was coach.
Ted Sundquist had the title but Shanny was in charge.

As Tripp points out, Shanahan is probably the likely choice but not the best choice. I worry that Snyder will sign someone like a Shanahan or Holmgren etc to be able to say "See, big time coaches do want to come here." But so what? Don't bring in a big name coach just to bring in a name coach. Do your research man. Shanahan should not have control over personnel.
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Screw this stupid sh*t. I dont care if Bill Walsh, Lombardi, Shula, or any other hall of fame coach shows up here WE WILL NOT WIN IF VINNY AND DANNY BOY are running things here. We wont period. Look we had Gibbs here, it doesnt freakin matter if Shanahan or Cowher or anybody else, get rid of the FO manangement, its a joke...why even waste our time talking about this....
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If I remember correctly (feel free to correct me) he did with Marty. But we all know how that ended. Depends, he either is going to throw a lot of money his way or give him full control, hopefully the the latter rather than the former.
Eff all the big money that is thrown around. Snyder giving bigtime money to coaches is basically him buying his way to influencing the roster. Don't let Snyder comprise your coaching integrity with his checkbook.

Any coach that comes to DC needs to be underpaid so he doesn't care about being fired after telling Snyder to get lost. Coaches who are well paid will have some concern over perserving their paychecks.


Don't let the money play into any pending coaching equation.
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Old 10-11-2009, 08:26 PM   #54
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Ted Sundquist had the title but Shanny was in charge.

As Tripp points out, Shanahan is probably the likely choice but not the best choice. I worry that Snyder will sign someone like a Shanahan or Holmgren etc to be able to say "See, big time coaches do want to come here." But so what? Don't bring in a big name coach just to bring in a name coach. Do your research man. Shanahan should not have control over personnel.
ss, do you think vinny would be fired in this scenario ? i would personall like to see charley casserly brought back as gm, but i know that's just a pipe dream.
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I don't think the problem is Vinny as much as Snyder. Is Snyder really going to hire someone and step back?
If Snyder ever want to win any more he had better hire a good coach and then step back, and let them coach and maybe the team might win some games. After today and I was at the game, Snyder has to be embarrassed for the way his dumb ass offense lost this game. D can't do it every game nor should they have to. I've said this before but the problems the skins have now is Synders fault. And these problems started years ago when he bought this team. He's hired the coachs, Vinney, the high price players etc. and we are getting no were. Bet we don't win more than 5 games this year, and this would be nothing more than a gift from God.
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Come on now. Is Snyder really going after him and ready to throw away the season right now?
The season was over when we loss to the Lions! The rebuilding stage begins tonight. Sherman Lewis takes over playcalling. Zorn is simply the HC in name and not game planning. Sherman Smith is fired. Todd Collins is the Quarterback til Colt Brennan shows something in preseason. Throw screens til were blue in the face when the opponents are blitzing. Get Marko Mithchell, Anthony Aldrige and Todd Yoder in the game.
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I feel bad for Jim Zorn. Yes, he was in over his head, and he hasn't shown much as a game planner or play caller, but in all honesty, he's got NOTHING to work with here.

The players he has are pretty much crap.
I disagree. Zorn has not used the offensive players to his advantage and he's paying for it. I don't know what school of thought Zorn is from, but waiting a year to allow a rookie to play is old and archaic. Marko Mithcell needs to start this week against the Chiefs. Anthoy Alridge and Marcus Mason need to get some touches as well. Portis has lost several steps and its killing us. The OL is the only work in progress that leaves much to desire.
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Unless Shanahan gets total control he is not coming to DC.

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Oh hell no! Snyder's ego would never allow that to happen.
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ss, do you think vinny would be fired in this scenario ? i would personall like to see charley casserly brought back as gm, but i know that's just a pipe dream.
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I would love it if Casserly returned but I am not sure he would want to work for Danny Boy.
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Oh hell no! Snyder's ego would never allow that to happen.
It's already happened twice this decade!
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