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Old 10-16-2009, 03:35 PM   #211
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Not sure why people have this concern about Gruden and QBs. Gannon had his best years under him and so did Brad Johnson. I don't blame him much for the musical chairs at QB in Tampa at the end. The front office there simply wouldn't spend money so he ended up picking up scraps. And if it weren't for that spleen injury Simms had who knows, he could have developed.
It's not so much when he has a quarterback that he can work with, it's when he doesn't. But also, his involvement in personnel decision-making is not known. And whether or not he is to blame for the qb carousel, he does not have proven skills in player personnel decisions.

Something that I think both you and I have agreed that the next head coach of the redskins should have to work with Snyder and Cerrato.
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Old 10-17-2009, 03:14 PM   #212
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There showing M.Schottenheimer with the San Diego Chargers right now on NFL Network. God his team looks good.
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Old 10-17-2009, 03:21 PM   #213
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Even funnier...Portis is with Denver in this game. LOL>
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Old 10-17-2009, 03:28 PM   #214
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I'm not sure that gruden is the guy for the job. I don't think he is the type of coach to be able to rebuild a franchise. He doesn't seem to make smart decisions when trying to turn a team around. He seems to like his veterans and high effort guys too much...I'm not so sure he really knows what talent is necessary to win. But he is a great motivator, so when the pieces are in place, he does a good job.
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Old 10-17-2009, 03:49 PM   #215
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I'm not sure that gruden is the guy for the job. I don't think he is the type of coach to be able to rebuild a franchise. He doesn't seem to make smart decisions when trying to turn a team around. He seems to like his veterans and high effort guys too much...I'm not so sure he really knows what talent is necessary to win. But he is a great motivator, so when the pieces are in place, he does a good job.
Anyone know what role he played in turning the Raiders around? I don't even recall if the Raiders were all that bad before he got there, but my assumption is that they were. Wasn't he the Raiders coach in the infamous tuck rule game against the Pats?
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Old 10-17-2009, 04:07 PM   #216
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Anyone know what role he played in turning the Raiders around? I don't even recall if the Raiders were all that bad before he got there, but my assumption is that they were. Wasn't he the Raiders coach in the infamous tuck rule game against the Pats?


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Old 10-17-2009, 04:40 PM   #217
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If Gruden can win with Al Davis, he can win here.
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Old 10-17-2009, 05:52 PM   #218
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aww man....I don't want Gruden or Shanahan. Bring in Cowher or Holmgren, my personal hope is that Holmgren comes in and turns this mess around.
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Old 10-17-2009, 07:00 PM   #219
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There showing M.Schottenheimer with the San Diego Chargers right now on NFL Network. God his team looks good.
Yeah, except he gets to the red zone and gets really conservative, maybe that's why he never won a SB.
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I'm not sure that gruden is the guy for the job. I don't think he is the type of coach to be able to rebuild a franchise. He doesn't seem to make smart decisions when trying to turn a team around. He seems to like his veterans and high effort guys too much...I'm not so sure he really knows what talent is necessary to win. But he is a great motivator, so when the pieces are in place, he does a good job.
Seems to be the story w/ Gruden. If Skins fans think Greg Williams act wore thin too quickly it's hard to see Gruden being a favorite.
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Old 10-18-2009, 07:12 PM   #221
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KJ on Comcast Postgame reports that her sources say Gruden wants to coach somewhere that has a QB already in place and Holmgren/Shanahan would want VC gone if they came in. Nothing new but the Gruden point was interesting. Who knows?
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Old 10-18-2009, 08:18 PM   #222
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Gruden can hope for that, but there really isn't any team out there that will be in that situation that I am aware of.

Maybe:
Schaub in Houston

Possible but Doubtful:
Romo in Dallas - Not WCO.
Rivers in San Diego - Not WCO.
Edwards in Buffalo - Not sure what they run.

Impossible:
Russel in Oakland - Would never go back there.

All the other teams that are possible coach switches either don't have a good QB(Skins, Panthers, Browns, Titans) or have a coach who is only in his first year who appears safe for a year or two(Rams, Seahawks, Buccaneers, Lions, Chiefs).
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Let me throw in a name of an interesting prospect and with ties to the Redskins.

New Orleans Saints - Pete Carmichael Jr
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Let me throw in a name of an interesting prospect and with ties to the Redskins.

New Orleans Saints - Pete Carmichael Jr
One year under Marty here, and I am sure he is aware to stay as far away from Danny as possible.

I am not in favor of hiring a guy who is currently not calling the plays to be the Head Coach. If we end up with a True head coach, say Russ Grimm and bring in someone as OC, like Carmichael that will call plays it could work. Keep the defense the same or promote Gray as DC.
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Old 10-18-2009, 08:41 PM   #225
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KJ on Comcast Postgame reports that her sources say Gruden wants to coach somewhere that has a QB already in place and Holmgren/Shanahan would want VC gone if they came in. Nothing new but the Gruden point was interesting. Who knows?
Yep, I was just going to post the same thing. She sounded like her sources were pretty reliable too.

Honestly guys, I don't see Gruden, Cowher or Shanahan coming here. Definitely not the latter two.
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