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Old 10-14-2009, 09:48 PM   #46
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Amen to that. And where does Hall think the cap space would have come from to sign all these quality O-linemen? Right out of his contract that's where. Besides this whole point is moot anyways. We lost Samuels so now we're a sh*t team?? LOL please...

Personally I'm tired of this whole bunch. The only guy I like right now is Zorn. I don't think he's ready to be an NFL coach, but at least:

1. He's sincerely trying his best.
2. He's not blaming anyone but himself.

The rest of these clowns should take example.

Remember this is the same coach who knocked off Philly and Dallas back-to-back on the road last year. I've watched this team for 30 years and those were two of the most impressive regular season wins I can remember.

This whole thing started to unravel midway through last year when Portis threw Zorn under the bus, and the rest of the team followed suit with their play. Losing that game in Cincy with a playoff spot on the line was unacceptable. Where's the pride??

The boys from the "U" and the rest of them are such big stars but they haven't won squat here. I know, Snyder's a bad owner, Gibbs was too old for today's game, Zorn is in over his head, blah blah blah... the excuses are getting old. At some point the players gotta take some responsibility. But not this group. Just keep yapping away and cashing the cheques.

2009 is a lost cause, so is 2010. Time to blow it up. Keep the unmoveable contracts and the promising kids, and jettison the rest. The only one I'll feel bad for is Zorn.
he blames execution instead of his playcalls/gameplan 1000:1

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Old 10-14-2009, 09:50 PM   #47
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Beautiful post!!! We should avoid players from the "U" like the plague.
So no Sean Taylor? He was from the U.
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Hall is tied for second in the league with 3 interceptions.

London Fletcher leads the league in tackles with 59.
And has been burnt numerous times and can't tackle.
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So no Sean Taylor? He was from the U.
He's no longer alive, that's irrelevant.
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And has been burnt numerous times and can't tackle.
Really? He's been burnt that many times?
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Really? He's been burnt that many times?
Dude, don't get me started. And his tackling is superb!!
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Dude, don't get me started. And his tackling is superb!!
His tackling sucks, what are you talking about?
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His tackling sucks, what are you talking about?
Put it this way, he's almost making Champ Bailey money and he is NOT!!! Carlos Rogers should have been signed instead and for $15 Mil less, he might drop interceptions but he breaks up passes and can tackle. Before you say he gets burned, remember he tore up his knee and that takes 2 years to come back from. By the way we are talking about Hall not Fletcher.
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Put it this way, he's almost making Champ Bailey money and he is NOT!!! Carlos Rogers should have been signed instead and for $15 Mil less, he might drop interceptions but he breaks up passes and can tackle. Before you say he gets burned, remember he tore up his knee and that takes 2 years to come back from. By the way we are talking about Hall not Fletcher.
So we have two incomplete DBs, I don't think we should give money to either of them. Shit, Rogers is in a damn contract year and he's playing like crap too.

Bailey would have made that tackle and that picked by the way (so would have D. Green)
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In honor of djnemo quoting Shakespeare in another thread I will quote Homer here

This team sure does suck. They just plain suck! I've seen teams suck before, but these are the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked
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Old 10-14-2009, 10:45 PM   #56
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DeAngelo Hall is probably the least physical corner we have, the whiff on Delhomme and the whiff on Manningham in week 1 being exhibits A & B.

BUT, to discount what he said because of that or his absurd contract is to shoot the messenger for the message. Didn't the FO OFFER him that contract? So we're blaming Hall for overpaying him instead of concentrating on the O-line? Yeah, that makes sense. There's a reason so few of our players are playing up to their contracts, it's because we don't pay players for what they've done in DC. Outside of Cooley and Samuels there hasn't been one Redskins player that we've drafted, developed, and paid. You can't disregard the draft for a decade, sign a defensive tackle and then be surprised when our backup LT is a guard. I'm going to have a Guiness because our FO is Brilliant!
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This game aside, because when Samuels goes out and you also insert a new RG (if this is for other than a legit injury, it's a dumb coaching move) you have instability on both sides of the line and 2 positions. Maybe I'm missing something in reviewing the games, but Rinehart and Heyer sure didn't look problematic to me. Going back over GTripp's reviews, both he and I are seeing pretty much the same things. In the run game for the most part, Rinehart / Heyer looked fine. Heyer is better in Pass-pro than run and Rinehart vice versa, but neither is worse than average at his position. Outside of the plays I mentioned in my reviews, if someone can show me evidence that Rinehart/Heyer are performing horribly, I'm certainly open to hear/see it.

If I remember correctly at least two of the sacks given up in the first 4 games were directly to Samuels. We all knew depth at OT was a major concern going into this year and the FO bears the responsibility for that, but based on what we know about Snyder (he gives the coaches what they ask for) the coaching staff bears responsibility here too.
The protection the last two weeks has just been horrendous, but you and I have both seen that the problems have nothing to do with Heyer or Rinehart, or Mike Williams for that matter. Heyer struggled greatly with Peppers this week, but not as bad as Dockery did (and Dockery hadn't even been a problem before this week in pass pro).

Heyer has been a surprisingly strong run blocker this year. Even with Lineman Yards penalizing him very heavily for the safety, he still put together an above average game. His improvement in the run blocking game is the biggest improvement on the OL.

But the Panthers got tremendous amounts of pressure with a three man rush, and they did so without ever attacking Rabach, who might be the worst pass protecting Center in the NFL. They did it by isolating and beating Dockery, and by consistently owning Batiste with situational pass rushers.

Mike Williams at RT is a complete disaster waiting to happen though. I understand you might not have more than two NFL caliber OTs on the roster, but you can at least leave Heyer at RT and provide help for Batiste at LT.
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Old 10-14-2009, 11:49 PM   #58
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There's nothing wrong w/ Hall's comments. The offensive line is a disaster created by the ineptitude and general mismanagement within our FO, which for all practical purposes is lil Danny and his toady Vinnie. Don't tell me it's the coaches fault we've got the worst oline in football...if it takes a coach to point this out than lil D doesn't deserve to own a franchise (well that's already up for question) and Vinny doesn't deserve to have any more responsibility than washing uniforms (the rest of the league already knows this). So bottom line is it falls on the FO and while Hall can't come right out and say "These guys don't have the first clue how to put a team together" his comments from the article get the point across. He's talking common sense and that's about the gist of it...
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is it offense vs Defense yet?
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Yeah it's just another sign of how dysfunctional the team is under Zorn. He's got no control. He's done.
Portis and Hall might be right bout what they say to reporters, shouldnt stop them getting fined for the detrimental to team observations. Like Matty said, tackle the freaking quarterback on the most important play of the game then say something.
I'm all happy bout him making that interception but its not like he made a great play, the receiver mishandled the ball and it went right to Hall.
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