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| Re: If Chris Samuels does retire..? There's no injury relief, we have to take the hit. |
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Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 30
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| Re: If Chris Samuels does retire..? Well, the money guaranteed to him has to hit the cap sometime. But I don't think it will accelerate. Deion didn't play here in 2001 or 2002, but they didn't accelerate his cap hit until December of 2002. I'd imagine you could do something with Samuels that's similar.
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Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 55
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| Re: If Chris Samuels does retire..? ^^ I wonder if we could IR him for the 2010-2011 year, pay his salary, then cut him in April of 2011 designating him a 2011-12 cut - eating up three years of pro-rated salary cap (2009-10, 10-11, 11-12) and be hit only with the remainder for the 2012 year. His salary for the 2010-211 is only ~1.6M, but his release fee is 14M. In this way, and if I am reading the Canuck's cap sheets correctly, he would count against the cap 4.8 in 2010-11, ~3m in 11-12 (prorated portion of SB only), and ~7M in 12-13 (accelerated signing bonus). The obvious problem is paying him his base pay in 2010-11. It is relatively low, but I am sure it is more than DS wants to pay someone who will not be playing. Not sure if this is right - you would need Schneed or Canuck to check. But, basically, if DS pays his salary for a year, I think you can spread out his cap hit over an additional three years rather than taking it all next year.
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| Re: If Chris Samuels does retire..? Quote:
We wouldn't be paying him another dime for work he's not doing, it would just be a realization of the previously paid bonus dollars over the rest of the contract. So if he's through 2014, then his cap number in each year would be whatever it was scheduled as in the cap sheets, minus all forms of non-guarenteed money. Which, I imagine would be in the $2 million range per year. And while I'm hazy on the rules of this, I think we could accelerate the contract at any time simply by giving up his rights. Otherwise, we would hold his rights through the end of the contract he signed.
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| Re: If Chris Samuels does retire..? Quote:
If I'm wrong, someone who is more well-versed in the CBA should correct me.
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Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 55
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| Re: If Chris Samuels does retire..? Okay. I see what you're saying. I am unaware of a "reserved/retired" list that lets you keep a player on your books but you may be right. I was pretty sure that if a player files for retirement then their hit gets accelerated. It would seem a pretty easy way to manipulate the acceleration mechanism if true. As with you, I leave it to the cap experts - my original statement was meant more as "Can this be done?" for them.
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Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NoVa Age: 29
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| Re: If Chris Samuels does retire..? Just a little captain obvious here but I was watching ESPNEWS and Adam Schefter said on the ticker that he's not likely to play for the rest of the season and that he's probably gonna retire. I figure once he gets 3-4 opinions if he even goes that far then he'll eventually come to terms with it and retire so we'll have to eat the rest of his signing bonus. |
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