Should Snyder listen to his players?

Mattyk · 10-15-2009, 08:42 PM

Should Snyder listen to his players? | National Football Post

good read

Hog1 · 10-15-2009, 08:45 PM

DS is listening, just not officially. I GUARANTEE he does NOT like all the negative pub his team is getting, and ESPECIALLY all the allegations of incompetence leveled toward both he and VC. What happens as a result remains to be seen...........

Beemnseven · 10-15-2009, 09:03 PM

The picture alone of Snyder is repulsive. I can't help thinking what a pompous, smug little prick he looks like.

The Goat · 10-15-2009, 09:10 PM

I don't buy into the notion Snyder pays any attention to what's said. In fact I doubt he gives two shits. Look at his ten years as owner...this is a guy who believes he is absolutely the smartest person in any conversation/interaction.

...I will be shocked if he ever really turns over any serious decision-making.

backrow · 10-15-2009, 09:14 PM

This really becomes a poll question:

Should Dan Snyder give Coach Zorn a vote of confidence?

I say no. A vote of confidence is usually the kiss of death!

Hog1 · 10-15-2009, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Goat

I don't buy into the notion Snyder pays any attention to what's said. In fact I doubt he gives two shits. Look at his ten years as owner...this is a guy who believes he is absolutely the smartest person in any conversation/interaction.

...I will be shocked if he ever really turns over any serious decision-making.

One thing that I have to give to Dan's side is that basically he has been tried and convicted of being a pompous, cretanic, uncaring bastard, etc on the basis of?????
Anybody had any direct contact with him?
He may be, but to my knowledge, nobody here can.....legitimately substantiate it

DFI · 10-15-2009, 09:20 PM

that's a good read

53Fan · 10-15-2009, 09:24 PM

A good read and I agree with Matt. You hear so many stories about disgruntled players like Lavar running Snyder into the ground, I was kinda surprised to read Matt say how much Dan is liked by the players. He says he's never seen an owner called out by the players like this before. Will it do any good for Snyder to hear it from the players? I guess we'll see.

70Chip · 10-15-2009, 09:37 PM

Snyder should go skiing in Switzerland... until February. Make that June.

Defensewins · 10-15-2009, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog1

One thing that I have to give to Dan's side is that basically he has been tried and convicted of being a pompous, cretanic, uncaring bastard, etc on the basis of?????
Anybody had any direct contact with him?
He may be, but to my knowledge, nobody here can.....legitimately substantiate it

Even if all those things were true and more about Snyder I wouldn't care. I wouldn't even mind Snyder running the player personnel operations and fan club. If the team just played at a descent/respectable level on the field. Other then a few moments under Gibbs II was there brief accomplishment. But Snyder & Ceratto always manage to run the team back into the ground again. His unwillingness to hire a good Gm and let him run the team is what makes fans hate him. Not his exterior or behavior.
Just win baby. The fans will love you again....warts and all.

For every game the Redskin lose right now, Snyder is feeling it big time. These articles and player comments in the press. The team losing to the worst teams in the NFL. Redskins a laughing stock in the media. You better believe this is stressing him. Maybe it is what he needs so he learns to delegate to professional football men. Time will tell if continues to make an ass of himself or he digs himself out.

The Goat · 10-15-2009, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog1

One thing that I have to give to Dan's side is that basically he has been tried and convicted of being a pompous, cretanic, uncaring bastard, etc on the basis of?????
Anybody had any direct contact with him?
He may be, but to my knowledge, nobody here can.....legitimately substantiate it

I have no idea what is manners are like...I don't think it makes any difference. Kraft may be the biggest jerk on the planet for all I know (I don't btw) but he knows how to be a very good franchise owner. Snyder's ownership, by any honest account, is a disaster. His manners are not more or less irrelevant but his decision-making is critical.

The Goat · 10-15-2009, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Even if all those things were true and more about Snyder I wouldn't care. I wouldn't even mind Snyder running the player personnel operations and fan club. If the team just played at a descent/respectable level on the field. Other then a few moments under Gibbs II was there brief accomplishment. But Snyder & Ceratto always manage to run the team back into the ground again. His unwillingness to hire a good Gm and let him run the team is what makes fans hate him. Not his exterior or behavior.
Just win baby. The fans will love you again....warts and all.

For every game the Redskin lose right now, Snyder is feeling it big time. These articles and player comments in the press. The team losing to the worst teams in the NFL. Redskins a laughing stock in the media. You better believe this is stressing him. Maybe it is what he needs so he learns to delegate to professional football men. Time will tell if continues to make an ass of himself or he digs himself out.

Excellent post man! I tend to disagree on Snyder's reaction, or lack thereof. But overall you really wrap the whole idea of a football franchise into a nice paragraph.

Hog1 · 10-15-2009, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Goat

I have no idea what is manners are like...I don't think it makes any difference. Kraft may be the biggest jerk on the planet for all I know (I don't btw) but he knows how to be a very good franchise owner. Snyder's ownership, by any honest account, is a disaster. His manners are not more or less irrelevant but his decision-making is critical.

I really was not singling you out, but DS has recieved 40 lifetimes full of BS about his character from people that do not have any personal knowledge of him. He may deserve it, but AT LEAST it should come from actual knowledge.

GMScud · 10-15-2009, 10:09 PM

That was a good read. It sickens me to think of the success we've been missing out on over the last decade. If we could only match up a solid GM with Snyder's willingness to spend and desire to win....

It's pretty amazing that someone who supposedly wants to win more than anything just can't get out of his own way.

Mattyk · 10-15-2009, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog1

I really was not singling you out, but DS has recieved 40 lifetimes full of BS about his character from people that do not have any personal knowledge of him. He may deserve it, but AT LEAST it should come from actual knowledge.

I do think you're bringing up a good point. DS does get a lot shit he doesn't deserve but if we were 5-0 right now he could be the biggest prick a-hole in the world and nobody would care. Problem is when we lose everyone piles on, fair or not. We always hear that DS just wants to win, well so do we, trouble is he's not going about things the right way to reach that goal. His track record over the last decade speaks for itself.

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Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 8,375	Re: Should Snyder listen to his players? DS is listening, just not officially. I GUARANTEE he does NOT like all the negative pub his team is getting, and ESPECIALLY all the allegations of incompetence leveled toward both he and VC. What happens as a result remains to be seen........... __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... Win! Always win! By fair means or foul, by soft words and hard deeds... by treachery, by cunning, by malpractice... but always win--Edward Teach

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Beemnseven Fighting off The Crazies Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 39 Posts: 5,280	Re: Should Snyder listen to his players? The picture alone of Snyder is repulsive. I can't help thinking what a pompous, smug little prick he looks like.

10-15-2009, 09:10 PM	#4
The Goat Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,021	Re: Should Snyder listen to his players? I don't buy into the notion Snyder pays any attention to what's said. In fact I doubt he gives two shits. Look at his ten years as owner...this is a guy who believes he is absolutely the smartest person in any conversation/interaction. ...I will be shocked if he ever really turns over any serious decision-making. __________________ Sometimes you eat the bear, and sometimes he eats you.

10-15-2009, 09:14 PM	#5
backrow The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: 36.28 x 76.22 Age: 61 Posts: 1,791	Re: Should Snyder listen to his players? This really becomes a poll question: Should Dan Snyder give Coach Zorn a vote of confidence? I say no. A vote of confidence is usually the kiss of death! __________________ '37, '42, '83, '88, '92. Championship!

10-15-2009, 09:20 PM	#7
DFI Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: On the Road Age: 45 Posts: 223	Re: Should Snyder listen to his players? that's a good read __________________ 'Russ Grimm would swallow his dip by halftime and throw up on somebody's shoes. Jeff Bostic and Mark May were fighting about who'd missed an assignment. And man did Riggo stink from his hangover. But we got it done.' Don Warren

10-15-2009, 09:24 PM	#8
53Fan Pro Bowl Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,354	Re: Should Snyder listen to his players? A good read and I agree with Matt. You hear so many stories about disgruntled players like Lavar running Snyder into the ground, I was kinda surprised to read Matt say how much Dan is liked by the players. He says he's never seen an owner called out by the players like this before. Will it do any good for Snyder to hear it from the players? I guess we'll see. __________________ "Cautiously And Optimistically... Looking Forward To Change"

10-15-2009, 09:37 PM	#9
70Chip Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manassas Age: 42 Posts: 3,048	Re: Should Snyder listen to his players? Snyder should go skiing in Switzerland... until February. Make that June. __________________ This Monkey's Gone to Heaven

10-15-2009, 10:09 PM	#14
GMScud Swearinger Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Washington, DC Age: 34 Posts: 12,623	Re: Should Snyder listen to his players? That was a good read. It sickens me to think of the success we've been missing out on over the last decade. If we could only match up a solid GM with Snyder's willingness to spend and desire to win.... It's pretty amazing that someone who supposedly wants to win more than anything just can't get out of his own way. __________________ Insert witty signature here

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