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Old 10-19-2009, 01:00 PM   #46
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Much of the youth & talent on the team is on defense. That side of the ball has been rebuilt since the disaster year of 06. Fletcher will have to replaced soon, maybe he's got 1 more year. Guys like Daniels & Wynn, Griff, they're not likely to be here next year even if this team wins 10 in a row to go 12-4!

Overall, the d has a strong core of guys at or near their prime, while the offense has several old guys that can't make it & several young guys that would have a hard time cracking any nfl starting lineup. It may sound crazy, but the positions that arguably could be left alone are wr & TE. I say that knowing full well what a disappointment Davis, Kelly & Thomas have been to this point. At least for another year the prudent thing to do would be focus on the O line & see if the kids develop as playmakers.
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:00 PM   #47
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Guys like Fletcher and Haynesworth can't really afford to be on standby for the next 2 to 3 years.

The stress for our solution should be to rebuild. Though there may be some holdovers, ultimately our offense and defense should look drastically different when we are done.


Enough with the patchwork solutions. Bring in players that our next coach will need in his personally crafted scheme and not that of our previous coach.
I disagree in blowing up the Defense. This is a pretty young unit, and is only one or two players away from being elite. It may be time to make Jerry Gray the DC and let him have his way with the staff so that side of the ball is completely in his image.

Offense should be gutted and rebuilt for sure.
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I would bet any coach looking at this roster would take one look at the D and say, I can work with that unit. The offense needs work, but I can win games with this D. No need to make changes just for the sake of change.
My question is: what do you do with Fletcher? He's still a very productive player (not as good as last year), and absolutely critical for this defense to be above average. But he has two years left on his contract, they're expensive years, and he will be 35 next season. With Orakpo pretty much requiring a move to DL, that entire unit needs to be rebuilt.

So how many draft resources do you put in that position considering how much help the O needs? And with Fletcher, who is a pretty darn good player who we are still losing with, do you cut bait with him at the end of the year and just let the defense take it's lumps?
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:05 PM   #49
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I disagree in blowing up the Defense. This is a pretty young unit, and is only one or two players away from being elite. It may be time to make Jerry Gray the DC and let him have his way with the staff so that side of the ball is completely in his image.

Offense should be gutted and rebuilt for sure.

What???

You want coaching members from this regime on our team next year when the new coach comes on???

Were you by any chance in the Snyder's suite on Sunday?

Just to clarify I'm talking about next year when Jim Zorn is long gone, along with Vinny hopefully, and new head coach comes to town with his own staff, which is traditionally done by head coaches although you wouldn't see that as a Skins fan because of our bass-ackwards front office.
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:13 PM   #50
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What???

You want coaching members from this regime on our team next year when the new coach comes on???

Were you by any chance in the Snyder's suite on Sunday?

Just to clarify I'm talking about next year when Jim Zorn is long gone, along with Vinny hopefully, and new head coach comes to town with his own staff, which is traditionally done by head coaches although you wouldn't see that as a Skins fan because of our bass-ackwards front office.
Yea, hopefully that will be the decision our new GM and coach make. After all, we've been down that road before. I like Jerry Gray too but thats the decision of the new coach/Gm.
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My question is: what do you do with Fletcher? He's still a very productive player (not as good as last year), and absolutely critical for this defense to be above average. But he has two years left on his contract, they're expensive years, and he will be 35 next season. With Orakpo pretty much requiring a move to DL, that entire unit needs to be rebuilt.

So how many draft resources do you put in that position considering how much help the O needs? And with Fletcher, who is a pretty darn good player who we are still losing with, do you cut bait with him at the end of the year and just let the defense take it's lumps?
I think you can get by another season with Fletcher.
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I think you can get by another season with Fletcher.
I'd say just one more. I noticed Blades got about a series or so in the 1st half yesterday. I wondered if they're just trying to spell LF a little.

I don't think Blades is a long-term answer at MLB for this d, but come next year we might be seeing a 3-4 for all we know.
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:27 PM   #53
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I think you can get by another season with Fletcher.
Under our current conditions I think it's unfair to Fletcher who is in the phase of his career where he wants to help a team win a Super Bowl. He's not really playing for the money at this point and I'm sure he'd like to prove to the league that he is an asset.

I feel bad enough for the guy where I don't want to stricken him with our team's prospects for the next 2 years.
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:31 PM   #54
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I'd fire Zorn and Vinny. There's no reason that Vinny should be able to keep his job at this point. Appoint Jerry Gray as interim HC, appoint Morocco Brown as interim GM and start the search now for someone to come into the front office by December 1st and evaluate to set the course for the franchise in 2010 and beyond.

Anything else would be an exercise in futility.
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:39 PM   #55
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For those who want to rip apart the defense, consider this:

Redskins average time of possession: 27:04 (29th overall, dead last in NFC)
Redskins 1st Downs/Game: 15.7 (29th overall, next to last in NFC, thanks San Fran)

Meanwhile, the Defense is 5th overall in Total Yards allowed and Points Allowed and that's with 2 teams ahead of them that have played 5 games (Denver plays tonight, Eagles have already had their bye). Considering the amount of time they spend on the field, they can only be stretched so thin.

Now, I do realize there are a few holes on D, but those can be fairly easily filled going forward, and still stay successful with the current coaching staff or if Gray is promoted to DC if/when Blache retires.
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:49 PM   #56
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I present to you, the 10 step plan for success:

1.) GM -- must have total authority on everything
2.) Scouting -- gotta be able to make our draft effective
3.) Coaching -- defense-minded, motivator
4.) Clear out overpriced players -- value is EVERYTHING
5.) Build the lines -- 80% draft/20% FA
6.) Build the defense -- stop the run first, then the pass; I'd love to see 3-4
7.) Skill positions -- DB, QB, RB, WR, TE (in that order)
8.) Cheaper beer and free peanuts at FedEx
9.) Change my wardrobe to look like less of a chode
10.) Use less gel in my hair
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Old 10-19-2009, 02:19 PM   #57
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Under our current conditions I think it's unfair to Fletcher who is in the phase of his career where he wants to help a team win a Super Bowl. He's not really playing for the money at this point and I'm sure he'd like to prove to the league that he is an asset.

I feel bad enough for the guy where I don't want to stricken him with our team's prospects for the next 2 years.
Well he's under contract and he chose to sign here. I can't feel too bad for him, he's well compensated.
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Old 10-19-2009, 02:21 PM   #58
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maybe getting fletch to the pro-bowl can be our bright spot this year. with all our offensive three n outs, the D is getting alot of opportunities to make tackles.
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Old 10-19-2009, 02:23 PM   #59
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I would also do some due dilengence to see of Jeff Fisher is on the hot seat and might be out in Tenn. He's been there a long time and sometimes people need a change.
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I present to you, the 10 step plan for success:

1.) GM -- must have total authority on everything
2.) Scouting -- gotta be able to make our draft effective
3.) Coaching -- defense-minded, motivator
4.) Clear out overpriced players -- value is EVERYTHING
5.) Build the lines -- 80% draft/20% FA
6.) Build the defense -- stop the run first, then the pass; I'd love to see 3-4
7.) Skill positions -- DB, QB, RB, WR, TE (in that order)
8.) Cheaper beer and free peanuts at FedEx
9.) Change my wardrobe to look like less of a chode
10.) Use less gel in my hair
Explain to me why these would be priorities for you. Why a defensive minded head coach, especially with our 2 decade dearth of offense?

As to the positions, we've drafted DB the past 2 years, why would that be your #1 priority?
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