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Old 10-20-2009, 02:07 AM   #61
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there are holes/daylight that he doesn't hit or doesn't see thus doesn't get the yards that are available on those plays.

The 78 yard run is a perfect example....there were 9 yards "left on the field" on that play that he didn't get. Every other starting RB in the league, making as much money as 26 scores on that play... not even a question.
I agree CP should have score with 1 man to beat. It should be noted that Sellers should have knocked little ass Mike Brown on the ground. Instead Sellers falls and Mike Brown makes the tackle. Thats how the season goes for team playing poorly on offense. We have the Red Zone Diease.
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Old 10-20-2009, 03:33 AM   #62
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Show me a team with a Running Back as the highest paid player on Offense, and I will show you a team that doesn't make the playoffs. Name New England's RB when they won 3 titles. How many guys played in the Steelers backfield last year. Does anyone think the Colts won the Super Bowl on the shoulders of their running backs? The Ravens? The Bucs? RBs are a dime a dozen. Most teams have 2 RBs better than Portis. There are 40 plus RBs in the league that would get 1500 yards if they got Portis' carries. The days of the "feature back" are over (with a few exceptions).
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Old 10-20-2009, 04:07 AM   #63
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OUR PASS GAME IS TERRIBLE.
Defenses gameplan CP all day and he cant answer when its this bad.

Your all putting the blame on CPs shoulders?
he has lost a step... BUT his O-Line is in shambles.

We need CP in Washington...ALONG WITH ANOTHER EXPOLSIVE YOUNG BACK.
ive said this so many times. WE NEED A SOLID CP SPELL.

Clinton can hang around. Id like to have youth..along with him.

....then

We bring in a coach who likes to pound the rock and were in buisness.
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Old 10-20-2009, 05:10 AM   #64
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he's 7th in rushing yards I believe but how many o-lines are worst than ours??
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Old 10-20-2009, 07:31 AM   #65
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Show me a team with a Running Back as the highest paid player on Offense, and I will show you a team that doesn't make the playoffs. Name New England's RB when they won 3 titles. How many guys played in the Steelers backfield last year. Does anyone think the Colts won the Super Bowl on the shoulders of their running backs? The Ravens? The Bucs? RBs are a dime a dozen. Most teams have 2 RBs better than Portis. There are 40 plus RBs in the league that would get 1500 yards if they got Portis' carries. The days of the "feature back" are over (with a few exceptions).
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I think the problem with Portis other than O-line is his back doesn't come in and give a change of pace and help soften up the D-line Betts is the problem he's worthless, and should be shamed for taking money for what he doesn't do. Yeah Portis is on the down slope, but he can still produce. When he needs a breather Betts gains what 1 or 2 yards if not lose yardage. I say we start with getting rid of that worthless piece of sh$%#!
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Show me a team with a Running Back as the highest paid player on Offense, and I will show you a team that doesn't make the playoffs. Name New England's RB when they won 3 titles. How many guys played in the Steelers backfield last year. Does anyone think the Colts won the Super Bowl on the shoulders of their running backs? The Ravens? The Bucs? RBs are a dime a dozen. Most teams have 2 RBs better than Portis. There are 40 plus RBs in the league that would get 1500 yards if they got Portis' carries. The days of the "feature back" are over (with a few exceptions).
Uh... The Colts rushed for 191 yards in the Superbowl XLI. Jamal Lewis rushed for over 2000 yards the year the Ravens won, and in the Bucs Superbowl win, Michael Pittman alone, rushed for 124 yards.

And if there's really 40 running backs that could do what Portis has done; name them.
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Uh... The Colts rushed for 191 yards in the Superbowl XLI. Jamal Lewis rushed for over 2000 yards the year the Ravens won, and in the Bucs Superbowl win, Michael Pittman alone, rushed for 124 yards.

And if there's really 40 running backs that could do what Portis has done; name them.
Doesn't matter what he has "done" it matters what he is can "do".... currently.

Thats probably his biggest problem, he thinks he is a superstar because of past accomplishments.
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One thing I would like to see is, Mason being used more than 1 or 2 carries a game. I want him to take a chunk of carries, people say he's like another Portis, Betts but I disagree. I say him a chance and let's see what he can do, I bet people will be surprised.
There are several young players on this team that are not getting the opportunity to play. That could be part of the many problems the team is experiencing. Maybe the question should be: How many running backs are better than Portis?
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The skins have WAY too may guys who are fat and happy cause they are getting paid....I swear the fans care more when they lose the 50% of the players.
Great point...in a way I am a little glad that Snyder is getting to see how a lot of money doesn't necessarily result in a good team. We had little problems like Lloyd and Archuleta but now that the whole team has gone up in smoke, I wonder if he will make any adjustments.

Portis is not a disgrace, although he was never quite the touchdown machine he was in Denver, he has added a great chapter to the book on Redskins rushers, he's number 2 on the list in all-time yards, 3rd in all time carries and occupies the top 2 spots for yards in a season. So don't call him a disgrace, has he slowed, for sure, has he been given enough of an opportunity to succeed? I'm not so sure.
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Uh... The Colts rushed for 191 yards in the Superbowl XLI. Jamal Lewis rushed for over 2000 yards the year the Ravens won, and in the Bucs Superbowl win, Michael Pittman alone, rushed for 124 yards.

And if there's really 40 running backs that could do what Portis has done; name them.
I think you're missing his point; he's not saying that running the ball isn't important, he's saying that a "feature" rb isn't necessary & isn't worth paying a ton of $ for. I think your examples actually make his point, I mean does anyone think Addai or M. Pittman are great backs? Those guys were probably making 1/10 of what CP makes. (J. Lewis was a beast back then btw)

It's not that a great rb isn't worth a lot, it's just that w/good blocking a 4th round pick making small $ can outperform a 28 yr. old w/lots of mileage & injuries that makes big $.

As the Tuna said, it's a "disposable position."
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Great point...in a way I am a little glad that Snyder is getting to see how a lot of money doesn't necessarily result in a good team. We had little problems like Lloyd and Archuleta but now that the whole team has gone up in smoke, I wonder if he will make any adjustments.

Portis is not a disgrace, although he was never quite the touchdown machine he was in Denver, he has added a great chapter to the book on Redskins rushers, he's number 2 on the list in all-time yards, 3rd in all time carries and occupies the top 2 spots for yards in a season. So don't call him a disgrace, has he slowed, for sure, has he been given enough of an opportunity to succeed? I'm not so sure.
We need to insert the players we have who are hungry for success. There's no doubt in my mind that another coach (with a vision) wouldn't recognize a time in a game when a player like Anhony Alridge could be utilized. I don't want to hear about "fumbles" Portis fumbled the ball just this past Sunday, and there's also no doubt Alridge would have scored on the play Portis failed to do so. We have absolutely nothing to lose by utilizing our youth, the old "fat cats" are not getting the job done, if we can be 2-4 with them, we can't be any worse without them.
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It's not that a great rb isn't worth a lot, it's just that w/good blocking a 4th round pick making small $ can outperform a 28 yr. old w/lots of mileage & injuries that makes big $.
I don't disagree that Portis makes too much money, but when people direct their displeasure about a ridiculous contract on the player that has done nothing but produce for the majority of the last 5 seasons, it's a bit misplaced at the least. Clinton Portis didn't write the asinine, backloaded contract, and it's basically impossible for a runningback with that many carries to outplay a contract like that.

I'm simply taking issue with the fact that some people actually have the nerve to call Portis a disgrace. Direct your displeasure to the right place. Team management is the disgrace.
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I know our line is in shambles, but Portis leaves yards on the field. No explosiveness, no quickness, and he doesn't even think he needs to practice.

How did he not score on that 78 yard run? One defender, one blocker, and one CP = a FG???? Every other starting RB in the league scores easily.

He is a disgrace to the Burgandy and Gold!!!!!

every high school and college running back and about 15-18 starting rbs in the nfl, but in his defense he has been worn down these past 6 years
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Old 10-20-2009, 10:44 AM   #75
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Portis is a disgrace because of his attitude not his lack of production...he acts like he is too good for practice when its clear that he needs to work harder to overcome his eroding skills.... He simply won't put in the work necessary and doesn't seem to care that that hurts his team. That is a disgrace IN MY OPINION. You might disagree but I don't think its far fetched or misplaced. And I don't think he is the reason why the Skins are failing miserable, he is more of a sympton.
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