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Old 10-20-2009, 12:46 PM   #46
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Re: Mosely: Campbell to start

Zorn just said on the Jim Zorn show (on espn980) that Campbell will start Monday.
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Zorn: 'I'm going right back to Campbell'

Jim Zorn officially put the matter of who will be the Redskins' starting quarterback Monday to rest. "I'm going to go right back to Jason Campbell," he said on his radio show on ESPN980.
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Re: Mosely: Campbell to start

I'm assuming Zorn won't yank him again if we're getting pummeled by halftime?
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I'm assuming Zorn won't yank him again if we're getting pummeled by halftime?
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Its just not in Campbell's nature to come out and lay it on the line. If it was he'd have done it in game 1 when, based on the off season, he knew where he stood in the organization. For some reason JC plays tight and often takes a half to settle down. Unfortunately in the NFL you cant fritter away a half waiting for your QB to stop being nervous.
Unless you're a team like the Steelers. Then, you just have gritty and clutch play from the QB position.
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I agree. Playing hard is the key, because the other 31 teams don't really try all that much. We just need to play HARD! Why didn't we think of that sooner? Coach hard, play hard... it's so simple. Talent, Competence and brains be damned. Just go HARD and everything will be alright!
Agreed, we have absolutely no talent on our team. What was I thinking? I apologize, I should have thought before I said anything. Its not like we are the fifth ranked defense in the league right now. Its not like Clinton Portis is a top ten back in the league right now

I'm such an idiot. How dare I try to get people to rally behind the team instead of wearing bags on their heads? How dare a team have a bad year? Don't they know they have to be on top of their game and if they lose four games then the season is a loss.
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Catchy Handle there Portimus.

I LOL'd for a good minute.
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I'm assuming Zorn won't yank him again if we're getting pummeled by halftime?
Whose decision will it be? Will Lewis be in the locker room at half? Also, if Zorn's spiteful - he could have the attitude "I had to do it with Campbell, you have to do it with Campbell"
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Old 10-20-2009, 03:05 PM   #54
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Didn't want to start a new thread on this, but here you go

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Re: Mosely: Campbell to start

I think it's the right call to stick with Campbell. I know I'm a JC supporter so some will say 'it figures' but continuing to play Campbell accomplishes a few things.

It gives us the chance to continue to evaluate him for us and his potential value. The fact remains, if there's not a new CBA or an extension of the existing one, he's going to be a RFA this offseason so we need to determine his open market value. For some of you that think he's a backup, then maybe a 4th or 5th round tender. For those that think he could be an effective starter, maybe a 2nd or 3rd round tender. He's a mid level starting QB, probably in the David Garrard/Matt Cassell category but you know what, they both got paid by someone!

Ridiculous as some may claim it to be, he's still got the potential to be a good QB for us. He didn't become 'terrible' until the Tampa game and even then he led us back to victory. I'd love nothing more than to see him look like he's having fun on the football field. He looks miserable when he's out there. Thinking too much, reacting too little, being a robot. I hope he does exactly what he said on Lavar's show and comes out slinging.

He still gives us the best chance to win. While Collins had ONE pretty pass he also played like a backup. Threw 3 passes that got batted at the line, fumbled, mishandled a shotgun snap, showed zero mobility, etc. He is what he is. There's a reason he's been a backup his entire career! Why some fans think he's a gold nugget that nobody has yet uncovered is baffling to me.

As a franchise, there's ZERO benefit to leaving Campbell on the bench.
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I think it's the right call to stick with Campbell. I know I'm a JC supporter so some will say 'it figures' but continuing to play Campbell accomplishes a few things.

It gives us the chance to continue to evaluate him for us and his potential value. The fact remains, if there's not a new CBA or an extension of the existing one, he's going to be a RFA this offseason so we need to determine his open market value. For some of you that think he's a backup, then maybe a 4th or 5th round tender. For those that think he could be an effective starter, maybe a 2nd or 3rd round tender. He's a mid level starting QB, probably in the David Garrard/Matt Cassell category but you know what, they both got paid by someone!

Ridiculous as some may claim it to be, he's still got the potential to be a good QB for us. He didn't become 'terrible' until the Tampa game and even then he led us back to victory. I'd love nothing more than to see him look like he's having fun on the football field. He looks miserable when he's out there. Thinking too much, reacting too little, being a robot. I hope he does exactly what he said on Lavar's show and comes out slinging.

He still gives us the best chance to win. While Collins had ONE pretty pass he also played like a backup. Threw 3 passes that got batted at the line, fumbled, mishandled a shotgun snap, showed zero mobility, etc. He is what he is. There's a reason he's been a backup his entire career! Why some fans think he's a gold nugget that nobody has yet uncovered is baffling to me.

As a franchise, there's ZERO benefit to leaving Campbell on the bench.
Collins is horrible. I'm kinda glad he played the way he did so that no one would be saying that Collins is the answer.
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Old 10-20-2009, 03:27 PM   #57
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I think it's the right call to stick with Campbell. I know I'm a JC supporter so some will say 'it figures' but continuing to play Campbell accomplishes a few things.

It gives us the chance to continue to evaluate him for us and his potential value. The fact remains, if there's not a new CBA or an extension of the existing one, he's going to be a RFA this offseason so we need to determine his open market value. For some of you that think he's a backup, then maybe a 4th or 5th round tender. For those that think he could be an effective starter, maybe a 2nd or 3rd round tender. He's a mid level starting QB, probably in the David Garrard/Matt Cassell category but you know what, they both got paid by someone!

Ridiculous as some may claim it to be, he's still got the potential to be a good QB for us. He didn't become 'terrible' until the Tampa game and even then he led us back to victory. I'd love nothing more than to see him look like he's having fun on the football field. He looks miserable when he's out there. Thinking too much, reacting too little, being a robot. I hope he does exactly what he said on Lavar's show and comes out slinging.

He still gives us the best chance to win. While Collins had ONE pretty pass he also played like a backup. Threw 3 passes that got batted at the line, fumbled, mishandled a shotgun snap, showed zero mobility, etc. He is what he is. There's a reason he's been a backup his entire career! Why some fans think he's a gold nugget that nobody has yet uncovered is baffling to me.

As a franchise, there's ZERO benefit to leaving Campbell on the bench.
All good points. However, I would counter that with if he is an RFA next off-season and we could trade him maybe it's best to leave on the bench before his value drops anymore
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Zorn is killing me with the whole "I like calling plays. I have confidence and I am good at it!." Dude, no you're not. I am not saying this was completely handled correctly or that it is all on the play-calling but the only thing he's worse at than play calling is his clock management. He simply doesn't get it.
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I think it's the right call to stick with Campbell. I know I'm a JC supporter so some will say 'it figures' but continuing to play Campbell accomplishes a few things.

It gives us the chance to continue to evaluate him for us and his potential value. The fact remains, if there's not a new CBA or an extension of the existing one, he's going to be a RFA this offseason so we need to determine his open market value. For some of you that think he's a backup, then maybe a 4th or 5th round tender. For those that think he could be an effective starter, maybe a 2nd or 3rd round tender. He's a mid level starting QB, probably in the David Garrard/Matt Cassell category but you know what, they both got paid by someone!

Ridiculous as some may claim it to be, he's still got the potential to be a good QB for us. He didn't become 'terrible' until the Tampa game and even then he led us back to victory. I'd love nothing more than to see him look like he's having fun on the football field. He looks miserable when he's out there. Thinking too much, reacting too little, being a robot. I hope he does exactly what he said on Lavar's show and comes out slinging.

He still gives us the best chance to win. While Collins had ONE pretty pass he also played like a backup. Threw 3 passes that got batted at the line, fumbled, mishandled a shotgun snap, showed zero mobility, etc. He is what he is. There's a reason he's been a backup his entire career! Why some fans think he's a gold nugget that nobody has yet uncovered is baffling to me.

As a franchise, there's ZERO benefit to leaving Campbell on the bench.


Sorry man but at 2-4 vs some of the worst teams in the league there hasnt been much benefit to him being on the field either. Not all his fault but he has missed wrs that were in position to make plays. hence the benching
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Old 10-20-2009, 03:37 PM   #60
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collins is the better choice for this game over campbell imo. give collins first team reps all week and hed do better than throwing him in at half time. campbell has been in there the whole season and no results. not saying its all his fault, but give collins first team reps and see what he can do in the west coast offense.
You obviously didn't pay attention at all on Sunday or in the preseason.

Collins is just a filled roster spot, not a player we want on the field.
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