Warpath  

Home | Forums | Salary Cap Info | Shop | Donate | Stay Connected




Go Back   Warpath > Redskins Forums > Redskins Locker Room


PFT Rumor - Joe Gibbs is Coming Back

Redskins Locker Room


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-23-2009, 04:24 PM   #196
MVP
 
12thMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: washington, D.C.
Posts: 11,453
Re: PFT Rumor - Joe Gibbs is Coming Back

Quote:
Originally Posted by FRPLG View Post
I agree. And it's why I have lost confidence in DS finally. He just can't make good football decisions. Maybe he is TOO CLOSE emotionally to the Redskins. He tried to be patient for whatever reason. Be it image-related or simply that he thought Zorn just needed time. Either way it was a bad decision. One in a long line of them. I don't lack confidence that DS wants to win more than anything. I doubt his ability to make the right decisions to do so. Wanting and doing are very different things.
On that same note, I also don't think him selling the team is the solution either. But if Snyder is still in the picture, I'm still not sure how much Gibbs can affect the culture.
12thMan is offline   Reply With Quote

Advertisements
Old 10-23-2009, 04:29 PM   #197
Contains football related knowledge
 
JoeRedskin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Second Star On The Right
Age: 51
Posts: 8,395
Re: PFT Rumor - Joe Gibbs is Coming Back

Quote:
Originally Posted by FRPLG View Post
Exactly...and this is what we need. A culture change. Forget the who's and the how's. We need a culture change in the FO of this org. To me Gibbs seems like the perfect guy for that. Almost without fail the people he brings in as football guys are good in terms of football and just plain management style. I would argue our product on the field when Gibbs was here the second time was not reflective of the better culture he worked to build. Given the opportunity to step back from coaching and personnel he might be able to actually effect some permanent change to the FO instead on the temporary we had while he was here.
Also, we have been questioning why we went from 6-2 to 2-6. Perhaps part of that 6-2 was residual from the team coming together under Gibbs. I would proffer that, the only times that Team Turmoil has not reigned around here was during Gibbs tenure. Smoot has already pointed out that he cleaned up the business side of some of the more petty types. Perhaps the culture was on its way to changing but it couldn't survive VC's universally condemned interpersonal skills (or lack thereof).
__________________
"We're very sorry, but we're too permissive to allow your sort".
JoeRedskin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2009, 04:33 PM   #198
Pro Bowl
 
skinsguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Greensboro, North Carolina
Posts: 6,375
Re: PFT Rumor - Joe Gibbs is Coming Back

Quote:
Originally Posted by joeredskin View Post
also, we have been questioning why we went from 6-2 to 2-6. Perhaps part of that 6-2 was residual from the team coming together under gibbs. I would proffer that, the only times that team turmoil has not reigned around here was during gibbs tenure. Smoot has already pointed out that he cleaned up the business side of some of the more petty types. Perhaps the culture was on its way to changing but it couldn't survive vc's universally condemned interpersonal skills (or lack thereof).
+ 100
__________________
Not the same Skinsguy that posts on ES.
skinsguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2009, 07:19 PM   #199
‎\m/
 
Mattyk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Age: 41
Posts: 79,403
Re: Dan Snyder: Please Don't Bring Back Joe Gibbs

Quote:
Originally Posted by skinsguy View Post
Why are you going back to draft picks? This position has nothing to do with player personnel. This is about someone who could build an organization up from the front office (which is where it NEEDS improvement) and those guys that are hired are the ones who build the team. Gibbs never owned a racing team in his life. He built the team and the team won championships. Why would you think he could not do this with football, a sport that he has been successful with as a coach?
Well said, not sure why some are so stuck on personnel, that's not what this potential position seems to be about.
__________________
Support The Warpath! | Warpath Shop
Mattyk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2009, 09:18 PM   #200
Franchise Player
 
FRPLG's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Age: 35
Posts: 9,877
Re: PFT Rumor - Joe Gibbs is Coming Back

Quote:
Originally Posted by 12thMan View Post
On that same note, I also don't think him selling the team is the solution either. But if Snyder is still in the picture, I'm still not sure how much Gibbs can affect the culture.
I definitely have similar questions. But if Snyder would ever just hand it over to someone it would be Gibbs. He loves the man. My biggest hesitation is whether Gibbs himself has the personality to come in and tell Snyder go away. He was far more deferential with Snyder than he should have been in my estimation. And I don't understand why. I get the feeling that Gibbs is a big chain-of-command type guy and with Snyder being his "boss" he didn't ever throw his rather hefty football weight around.To me a guy like Gibbs has the credentials to look DS in the eye and tell him he shouldn't ever be involved with a real football decision ever again and if DS doesn't like it then Gibbs can walk. Parcells would...Belicheck would...Bill Walsh would. Would Gibbs? Or would he just try to make it work? I'm not sure. We all want a GM. More importantly what we all want is DS NOT MAKING ANY MORE FOOTBALL DECISIONS.
FRPLG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2009, 11:11 PM   #201
MVP
 
12thMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: washington, D.C.
Posts: 11,453
Re: PFT Rumor - Joe Gibbs is Coming Back

Maybe I'm thick as mud, but I still don't understand the strategy here. Look, it's not like Gibbs wasn't here just a little while ago.

My question, among others, are these:

1)Did Gibbs just realize the Skins need a GM or did he feel this way during his second stint? Surely Gibbs, above all people, understands the value of having a football guy run the team and pick talent.

2) So why did he come here knowing Danny wasn't going to get a GM and leave not impressing upon to get a GM?

So either Gibbs and Danny have had a change of heart or Gibbs thought the front office structure was fine the way he left it. If it's the latter, that informs me a little bit.


Statement:

Yes, Gibbs is an asset. No doubt about it. But why a limited "operational role". It just seems like more tinkering to me and we need a fundamental shift in front office strategy. I guess I would rather see all in or all out. Enough with the PR, Danny only listens to Gibbs BS. To me that strategy is just as flawed as the one we've had. Because if Gibbs is the only guy that can get him see the light, so to speak, then all of Snyder's eggs are still in one basket. And that's dangerous. It's like putting all your chips on red in Vegas. Am I reading too much into Gibbs role, not enough?

Am I just angry and don't care anymore?
12thMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2009, 11:16 PM   #202
The Starter
 
TheSmurfs22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Staunton, VA
Posts: 1,077
Re: PFT Rumor - Joe Gibbs is Coming Back

While I love Gibbs and what he has done for this once great franchise and the fans at some point we cannot keep thinking that Joe can dig us out of the holes we create.
__________________
F#$% the Cowpukes!
TheSmurfs22 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2009, 11:19 PM   #203
Quietly Dominating the East
 
Hog1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Naples, Florida
Posts: 8,917
Re: PFT Rumor - Joe Gibbs is Coming Back

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSmurfs22 View Post
While I love Gibbs and what he has done for this once great franchise and the fans at some point we cannot keep thinking that Joe can dig us out of the holes we create.
Do you not think he can do it?
__________________
Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios
thankyou Joe.......
Win! Always win!
By fair means or foul, by soft words and hard deeds...
by treachery, by cunning, by malpractice...
but always win--Edward Teach
Hog1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2009, 11:11 PM   #204
The Starter
 
CrustyRedskin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: RatherbeinDC, TX
Posts: 2,398
Re: PFT Rumor - Joe Gibbs is Coming Back

Joe Gibbs or George Allen are the only ones who could pull us out of this mess. Too bad Georg isnt around but his son is???
CrustyRedskin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2009, 11:27 PM   #205
Mr. Brightside
 
Big C's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Fairfax, Virginia
Age: 27
Posts: 4,439
Re: PFT Rumor - Joe Gibbs is Coming Back

if joe gibbs comes back to the organization, tim tebow will be a redskin. both devout christians, one reason he brought brunell in many seemed to think. plus looks like we will need a qb.
__________________
"I don't care what nobody say I'm a be me, stay hood stay real, cause I'm out here grindin'" -Joe Gibbs
Big C is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2009, 11:37 PM   #206
Camp Scrub
 
reppinredskins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 27
Re: PFT Rumor - Joe Gibbs is Coming Back

Last time we won a SB=Gibbs

Last time we went to the playoffs=Gibbs

If gibbs never retired the 2nd before zorn came in, I bet we would be a top nfl team.

Why are people not liking this idea?

Do you have a better one???
reppinredskins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2009, 11:57 PM   #207
Quietly Dominating the East
 
Hog1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Naples, Florida
Posts: 8,917
Re: PFT Rumor - Joe Gibbs is Coming Back

Quote:
Originally Posted by Big C View Post
if joe gibbs comes back to the organization, tim tebow will be a redskin. both devout christians, one reason he brought brunell in many seemed to think. plus looks like we will need a qb.
Need some help getting to the drunk thread?
__________________
Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios
thankyou Joe.......
Win! Always win!
By fair means or foul, by soft words and hard deeds...
by treachery, by cunning, by malpractice...
but always win--Edward Teach
Hog1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2009, 01:38 PM   #208
Playmaker
 
Paintrain's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Age: 43
Posts: 4,878
Re: PFT Rumor - Joe Gibbs is Coming Back

Gibbs says he's not coming back:

Gibbs says he's not returning to Redskins
__________________
FREE RG3!
Paintrain is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2009, 01:42 PM   #209
MVP
 
CRedskinsRule's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Pasadena, Md
Age: 46
Posts: 12,131
Re: PFT Rumor - Joe Gibbs is Coming Back

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paintrain View Post
Gibbs says he's not coming back:

Gibbs says he's not returning to Redskins
Not to pick on the story, but they say we are 3-3, sadly we are not, they say fans are calling for Zorns job, and while some are, seems like most of the anger is pointed at Snyder and Cerrato. Hopefully their facts with respect to Gibbs are just as accurate.
CRedskinsRule is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2009, 01:43 PM   #210
Pro Bowl
 
SFREDSKIN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Pacifica, CA
Posts: 7,300
Re: PFT Rumor - Joe Gibbs is Coming Back

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paintrain View Post
Gibbs says he's not coming back:

Gibbs says he's not returning to Redskins
The article also mentions the Skins are 3-3.
__________________
Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs.

Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory.

Darrell Green- Best DB ever.


Purveyor of fine Filth
SFREDSKIN is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:19 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site is not officially affiliated with the Washington Redskins or the NFL.
Page generated in 0.31826 seconds with 9 queries

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25