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Old 10-27-2009, 05:05 PM   #46
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Old 10-27-2009, 05:07 PM   #47
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What if every fan that came to the next home game was wearing a Dan and Vinny are butt weasels T-shirt and all the fans refused to take them off? What then? The game would be played to an empty stadium?
I think Danny and Vinny are stupid, they do not realize they are playing with fire.
By denying the fans the right to poke fun at the FO they are going to alienate more fans and add fuel to the building fire.
This is yet another example of Danny's ego is more important than anything else...like the team, the fans, the franchise. Danny will never learn. He behaves like a spoiled child.
Who the fuck does he think is? That he is not open to criticism? That by definition is childish.
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Old 10-27-2009, 05:09 PM   #48
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I don't feel but so bad for season ticket holder because it not like we just got bad this year its been 10 now. You keep shelling out the money and now you finally decide to bitch about the team.
Us season ticker holders make it possible for others to watch the games on TV in the privacy of their own homes. That's been one consolation for me over the years, knowing that through fans like myself we help make it possible for other fans who are not fortunate enough to be able to attend the games to view them just the same.
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Well I watched the game last night and saw a full stadium and none of those protesters. I was actually surprised by how many fans went to the game and thought that the Eagle fans would be there in larger numbers.
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Exactly! I didn't see one fan wearing any of those shirts on TV. But, if I had tuned in and noticed that half the stadium is empty (like it was last week,) then I would know something is wrong.
You guys didn't see the protesters because they weren't allowed into the stadium (or had to give up their protesting materials). Did you guys even read the first post/article? Sheesh.
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Us season ticker holders make it possible for others to watch the games on TV in the privacy of their own homes. That's been one consolation for me over the years, knowing that through fans like myself we help make it possible for other fans who are not fortunate enough to be able to attend the games to view them just the same.
Well I did not know you made all this possible for me. Thank You
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Well I did not know you made all this possible for me. Thank You
Not me personally, but a host of other fans like me.
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You guys didn't see the protesters because they weren't allowed into the stadium (or had to give up their protesting materials). Did you guys even read the first post/article? Sheesh.
Someone made the point they did this to get national attention on MNF and I just pointed out that none of it showed up on TV. SHeesh
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You guys didn't see the protesters because they weren't allowed into the stadium (or had to give up their protesting materials). Did you guys even read the first post/article? Sheesh.
Actually I found/read the article even before it was posted here, so I'll see your sheesh and raise ya a whatever. Unless the TV cameras zero in on one or two particular fans, then those of us watching the game at home are going to notice empty seats more than what fans are wearing in the stands. That was really our point. If I tune in and see a stadium that is half way, or more, empty, then I am going to notice that first before I see what fans are wearing.
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Oh my God is it true that no fans can take signs to FedEx Field anymore? I wasn't sure if to believe it or not since it is PFT..
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Someone made the point they did this to get national attention on MNF and I just pointed out that none of it showed up on TV. SHeesh
Ok. Are you saying that it didn't/won't show up on TV because the station will not cover it, and therefore such behavior will never send a message to the national audience? If so, I would have to disagree completely. Media loves controversy.
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Actually I found/read the article even before it was posted here, so I'll see your sheesh and raise ya a whatever. Unless the TV cameras zero in on one or two particular fans, then those of us watching the game at home are going to notice empty seats more than what fans are wearing in the stands. That was really our point. If I tune in and see a stadium that is half way, or more, empty, then I am going to notice that first before I see what fans are wearing.
I agree you'd notice a half-empty stadium before noticing what people are wearing -- regardless of how many people are wearing it.

However, I don't think it's ineffective. Yeah, if only one or two particular fans are protesting, but that is not the case. What do you think the cameras would do, if 40,000 people were wearing the anti-snyder stuff? You think they'd ignore it? Well, they didn't have to make that decision because Snyder didn't let them in, or forced them to abandon the stuff that Snyder didn't approve of. Why did he do that, you ask? Because he didn't want it to receive any coverage. I think that says it all.
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i was there starting the snyderatto sucks chant quite a few times in the tunnels... in the seats ... nobody botherd our section...
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I agree you'd notice a half-empty stadium before noticing what people are wearing -- regardless of how many people are wearing it.

However, I don't think it's ineffective. Yeah, if only one or two particular fans are protesting, but that is not the case. What do you think the cameras would do, if 40,000 people were wearing the anti-snyder stuff? You think they'd ignore it? Well, they didn't have to make that decision because Snyder didn't let them in, or forced them to abandon the stuff that Snyder didn't approve of. Why did he do that, you ask? Because he didn't want it to receive any coverage. I think that says it all.
Well I think it's kind of the trickle down theory. It starts with written news articles or blogs about it. (which has already happened.) Then, ESPN gets wind of it and eventually it gets on TV. Basically what Dan Snyder is doing is trying to plug the holes in the dam as good as he can. However, eventually, more holes appear than what he has fingers and it can't be stopped. I still say the most affective way of sticking it to Snyder is to reduce, if not completely cut off, padding his pocket with money. No more buying tickets and going to the games, no concessions, no Redskins swag, no paid parking, etc... All the shirts really are doing is reinforcing what people already assume or know about Daniel Snyder. Seems to me the only guy who has said anything nice about him has been Joe Gibbs, but that is because Gibbs isn't the type of guy who is going to go publicly bashing people, and plus Snyder worships Gibbs.

As a fan who never goes to the games (because I don't live in the area nor do I have the money to go) the first thing I noticed last week and last night was which seats and how many were empty. More noticeable last week of course, but that speaks volumes to me.
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Well I think it's kind of the trickle down theory. It starts with written news articles or blogs about it. (which has already happened.) Then, ESPN gets wind of it and eventually it gets on TV. Basically what Dan Snyder is doing is trying to plug the holes in the dam as good as he can. However, eventually, more holes appear than what he has fingers and it can't be stopped. I still say the most affective way of sticking it to Snyder is to reduce, if not completely cut off, padding his pocket with money. No more buying tickets and going to the games, no concessions, no Redskins swag, no paid parking, etc... All the shirts really are doing is reinforcing what people already assume or know about Daniel Snyder. Seems to me the only guy who has said anything nice about him has been Joe Gibbs, but that is because Gibbs isn't the type of guy who is going to go publicly bashing people, and plus Snyder worships Gibbs.

As a fan who never goes to the games (because I don't live in the area nor do I have the money to go) the first thing I noticed last week and last night was which seats and how many were empty. More noticeable last week of course, but that speaks volumes to me.
I hear ya. I think it's just fun to ruffle Danny's panties whenever, and however, possible. I know a lot of people aren't on board with the bus ads, but it makes me smile knowing how much that would irritate Snyder. Yeah, I'm petty, but I'm okay with it.
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I guess the next thing is he will ban ESPN and thier reporters. Hell most if not all sports writers in general for that matter.

All have been extremely critical of management.
And if that fails, he can just ban Rich Gannon from the facility. I hear that's all the rage these days.
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