Return of Joe Gibbs - - Update

sportscurmudgeon · 11-05-2009, 10:45 PM

Conversations regarding the possibility of Joe Gibbs returning to the Redskins in a senior managerial role - - but NOT as the head coach - - have halted. According to my source, it is unlikely that there will be any more discussions until after Christmas.

However, my source tells me that this "break" in the conversations is just that - - a break in the conversations and not a sign that this issue has been resolved one way or the other.

My source ALSO told me that Joe Gibbs and Darrell Green have had dinner a couple of times in the past two weeks but it was NOT clear to my source whether Green was an emissary of Danny Boy or if this was just a coach and one of his top-shelf players just maintaining their relationship.

If these "conversations" don't amount to a hill of beans, there will be no stories in the mass media about the "failure to reach an agreement here". On the other hand, my source tells me that if this all works out and Gibbs comes back to the Skins, it will be a headline story on ESPN for at least 3 days. I'm not quite sure what that means exactly, but my source is adamant on that point... And I am acutely aware of how much Danny Boy loves to have a postive story related to him and/or the Skins dominate ESPN coverage ...

Stay tuned. Same time next month... Same Bat Channel...

skinsfaninok · 11-05-2009, 10:52 PM

Link?

sportscurmudgeon · 11-05-2009, 10:54 PM

No link. This is info from a friend who has knowledge of the conversations.

12thMan · 11-05-2009, 10:57 PM

Sounds like Gibbs is coming back. I'm betting, they're working through the details of his role, how to go about it, and the make-up of the front office.

It's very unlikely that Gibbs and Green had dinner and the state of the Redskins didn't come up in conversation.

It's possible that Gibbs has or will come to terms with that he'll always be a Redskin and he'll never fully escape being connected to this organization.

12thMan · 11-05-2009, 10:58 PM

I think for this was leaked is also a trial of sorts.

tryfuhl · 11-05-2009, 11:02 PM

mad love to gibbs but can we please point our eyes to the future?

CultBrennan59 · 11-05-2009, 11:05 PM

Can we just get Chris Polian as our GM?

12thMan · 11-05-2009, 11:08 PM

This whole thing is going to end up being a big distraction for the Skins. They either need to bring him back or publicly put it to rest.

Lotus · 11-05-2009, 11:11 PM

We should hire Heather Graham as GM. On-field play could not be any worse and the fan's view would be better.

The Goat · 11-05-2009, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lotus

We should hire Heather Graham as GM. On-field play could not be any worse and the fan's view would be better.

Fantastic idea Lotus. Graham for GM and ummm Megan Fox for HC.

Gibbs coming back isn't good news, and it's exactly what I would expect from lil D. I think the FO situation only becomes more amorphous and confused after this season i.e. instead of bringing in a legit GM who really runs the show Snyder will have a "committee" (Vinny will still be around too I think), which will allow him to stay very involved in ALL real personnel decisions but behind a "bigger" cloak. The more I see this season's disaster unravel the clearer it becomes Snyder will never hand the reigns over to a true professional. Like someone else wisely said, if Snyder did that and the guy was successful who would get the credit? Waaayyyyy too much for the little man's ego to handle...

SBXVII · 11-06-2009, 12:06 AM

Well yet again we are all getting spun up over rumors.....

Not only do we not know if JG will come back we don't even know if he does what roll he would play. I doubt he will come back as a GM since there is a lot of work involved and he has his racing team to manage. I can see him being in a position to help locate a legitimate GM and assist with locating a legitimate HC who will take the job perhaps under the understanding that DS will back off considerably.

12thMan · 11-06-2009, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Well yet again we are all getting spun up over rumors.....

Not only do we not know if JG will come back we don't even know if he does what roll he would play. I doubt he will come back as a GM since there is a lot of work involved and he has his racing team to manage. I can see him being in a position to help locate a legitimate GM and assist with locating a legitimate HC who will take the job perhaps under the understanding that DS will back off considerably.

Can I ask you an honest question? Why didn't Joe Gibbs do that before he left?

Skinny Tee · 11-06-2009, 12:10 AM

No former Skins greats should be involved in our management structure.

Doing this only cements to me that Snyder is more concerned with catering to the public opinion and not putting the right people in place to building a competitive team.

Doing this only leads to more of the chicanery that Dan does just to gain the good graces of the fans. Really...he only shows that he's interested in keeping the stadium seats filled and doesn't show any due diligence in actual football operations.

Enough with the former players and coaches...just say NO!

The Goat · 11-06-2009, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Can I ask you an honest question? Why didn't Joe Gibbs do that before he left?

Well I think he tried...that's why Williams was brought in as DC and HC in-waiting w/ Saunders brought in next to run the offense. It was actually a pretty perfect set-up and the team was coming off a strong run. Lil D and his weird little toady just decided to blow things up again from the coaching/scheme perspective.

...sort of makes it hard to believe Gibbs would come back yet again. It's like he needs to say "Now Danny I'm not gonna be around to baby-sit you forever..."

12thMan · 11-06-2009, 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Goat

Well I think he tried...that's why Williams was brought in as DC and HC in-waiting w/ Saunders brought in next to run the offense. It was actually a pretty perfect set-up and the team was coming off a strong run. Lil D and his weird little toady just decided to blow things up again from the coaching/scheme perspective.

...sort of makes it hard to believe Gibbs would come back yet again. It's like he needs to say "Now Danny I'm not gonna be around to baby-sit you forever..."

So Gibbs tried? Uh-huh.

11-05-2009, 10:45 PM	#1
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Return of Joe Gibbs - - Update Conversations regarding the possibility of Joe Gibbs returning to the Redskins in a senior managerial role - - but NOT as the head coach - - have halted. According to my source, it is unlikely that there will be any more discussions until after Christmas. However, my source tells me that this "break" in the conversations is just that - - a break in the conversations and not a sign that this issue has been resolved one way or the other. My source ALSO told me that Joe Gibbs and Darrell Green have had dinner a couple of times in the past two weeks but it was NOT clear to my source whether Green was an emissary of Danny Boy or if this was just a coach and one of his top-shelf players just maintaining their relationship. If these "conversations" don't amount to a hill of beans, there will be no stories in the mass media about the "failure to reach an agreement here". On the other hand, my source tells me that if this all works out and Gibbs comes back to the Skins, it will be a headline story on ESPN for at least 3 days. I'm not quite sure what that means exactly, but my source is adamant on that point... And I am acutely aware of how much Danny Boy loves to have a postive story related to him and/or the Skins dominate ESPN coverage ... Stay tuned. Same time next month... Same Bat Channel... __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

11-05-2009, 10:52 PM	#2
skinsfaninok Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Norman, OK Age: 26 Posts: 13,044	Re: Return of Joe Gibbs - - Update Link? __________________ Robert Griffin III "if you're good at something, never do it for free"- The Joker

11-05-2009, 10:54 PM	#3
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Re: Return of Joe Gibbs - - Update No link. This is info from a friend who has knowledge of the conversations. __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

11-05-2009, 10:57 PM	#4
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,366	Re: Return of Joe Gibbs - - Update Sounds like Gibbs is coming back. I'm betting, they're working through the details of his role, how to go about it, and the make-up of the front office. It's very unlikely that Gibbs and Green had dinner and the state of the Redskins didn't come up in conversation. It's possible that Gibbs has or will come to terms with that he'll always be a Redskin and he'll never fully escape being connected to this organization.

11-05-2009, 10:58 PM	#5
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,366	Re: Return of Joe Gibbs - - Update I think for this was leaked is also a trial of sorts.

11-05-2009, 11:02 PM	#6
tryfuhl Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Waldorf, MD Age: 29 Posts: 12,512	Re: Return of Joe Gibbs - - Update mad love to gibbs but can we please point our eyes to the future?

11-05-2009, 11:05 PM	#7
CultBrennan59 Pro Bowl Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 5,727	Re: Return of Joe Gibbs - - Update Can we just get Chris Polian as our GM?

11-05-2009, 11:08 PM	#8
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,366	Re: Return of Joe Gibbs - - Update This whole thing is going to end up being a big distraction for the Skins. They either need to bring him back or publicly put it to rest.

11-05-2009, 11:11 PM	#9
Lotus Mann Up HOF! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 8,951	Re: Return of Joe Gibbs - - Update We should hire Heather Graham as GM. On-field play could not be any worse and the fan's view would be better. __________________ Rooting for the Dallas Cowboys should be recognized as a treatable mental disorder.

11-06-2009, 12:06 AM	#11
SBXVII Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,498	Re: Return of Joe Gibbs - - Update Well yet again we are all getting spun up over rumors..... Not only do we not know if JG will come back we don't even know if he does what roll he would play. I doubt he will come back as a GM since there is a lot of work involved and he has his racing team to manage. I can see him being in a position to help locate a legitimate GM and assist with locating a legitimate HC who will take the job perhaps under the understanding that DS will back off considerably.

11-06-2009, 12:10 AM	#13
Skinny Tee The Starter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Redskins Nation Posts: 1,715	Re: Return of Joe Gibbs - - Update No former Skins greats should be involved in our management structure. Doing this only cements to me that Snyder is more concerned with catering to the public opinion and not putting the right people in place to building a competitive team. Doing this only leads to more of the chicanery that Dan does just to gain the good graces of the fans. Really...he only shows that he's interested in keeping the stadium seats filled and doesn't show any due diligence in actual football operations. Enough with the former players and coaches...just say NO! __________________ Redskinsly, _________Skinny Tee_________

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