Warpath  

Home | Forums | Salary Cap Info | Shop | Donate | Stay Connected




Go Back   Warpath > Redskins Forums > Redskins Locker Room


Our next coach??

Redskins Locker Room


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-27-2009, 09:50 AM   #241
Playmaker
 
Paintrain's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Age: 43
Posts: 4,911
Re: Our next coach??

Quote:
Originally Posted by SBXVII View Post
See one would hope that this is where all the problems lie. Most owners hire a GM and let him bring in a decent coach. So basically you predict DS will most likely hire his HC and then look for a GM?

I agree DS I presume will not want to humble himself and ask Marty to come back but honestly almost no one see's Cowher here and Holmgren is likely to take on the Seattle job cause I think everyone see's him as the face of Seattle, Gruden is stuck with ESPN, I never thought Dungy would take up coaching again but stranger things have happened, So in a nut shell all the big named proven coach's (proven meaning HC's that can actually coach) are pretty much gone except Shanahan. So either DS makes a big push for him or in my estimate Marty is the next solid HC available.

I'll get slammed I'm sure by those infatuated with Billick or Fassel but I just don't see them as being great HC's, they were mediocre. I know Billick won one SB and Marty didn't but I still see Marty as being a better leader especially when we need someone with Marty's personality vs Billicks.
Well if he hires Shanahan as Pres of Football Ops, I think he's going to let Shanny pick his front office as well. I don't see Marty as a viable or even a positive option here. Why keep dipping into the past?

Maybe I am just being naive but I think Shanahan is going to go into his next job with a different outlook and plan. From some things I've read, he's spent a lot of time studying the Steelers and Patriots organizations and I'd expect him to model wherever he goes after what he's deemed to be their best practices. I also think he realizes that doing it ALL is too much and will hire a quality personnel guy that he can work well with. He may have the titles and the final word on the roster but I think much of the leg work will go to someone else.

Finally, if he's the guy, he can put himself in the Hall of Fame by turning our franchise around and making them a consistent winner that he hands off to his son. He's already got 2 Super Bowls but history really considers those as "Elway's Super Bowls" instead of his. If he can reach 2 more and/or win one more, especially by revitalizing a cornerstone franchise, that would cement his coaching legacy. He's got to see that and be willing to couch his current ego for the sake of his long term ego.
__________________
Challenge Greatness! Be A Leader! Make A Difference!
Paintrain is offline   Reply With Quote

Advertisements
Old 11-27-2009, 11:27 AM   #242
‎\m/
 
Mattyk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Age: 41
Posts: 80,694
Re: Our next coach??

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paintrain View Post
Well if he hires Shanahan as Pres of Football Ops, I think he's going to let Shanny pick his front office as well. I don't see Marty as a viable or even a positive option here. Why keep dipping into the past?

Maybe I am just being naive but I think Shanahan is going to go into his next job with a different outlook and plan. From some things I've read, he's spent a lot of time studying the Steelers and Patriots organizations and I'd expect him to model wherever he goes after what he's deemed to be their best practices. I also think he realizes that doing it ALL is too much and will hire a quality personnel guy that he can work well with. He may have the titles and the final word on the roster but I think much of the leg work will go to someone else.

Finally, if he's the guy, he can put himself in the Hall of Fame by turning our franchise around and making them a consistent winner that he hands off to his son. He's already got 2 Super Bowls but history really considers those as "Elway's Super Bowls" instead of his. If he can reach 2 more and/or win one more, especially by revitalizing a cornerstone franchise, that would cement his coaching legacy. He's got to see that and be willing to couch his current ego for the sake of his long term ego.
Marty simply isn't interested in coming back in any capacity. He's 66 years old and quite content in retirement. He's been steadfast in saying he's not coming back.

As for Shanahan I've never understood why people are so quick to discredit his success as simply due to Elway. Wasn't he responsible for assembling the team around him? At that point in his career Elway wasn't carrying the team on his back. If anything the success of Terrell Davis is what drove those SB winning teams.
__________________
Support The Warpath! | Warpath Shop
Mattyk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2009, 11:32 AM   #243
Playmaker
 
celts32's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Hackettstown NJ
Age: 43
Posts: 2,656
Re: Our next coach??

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmootSmack View Post
There's also always Gregg Williams as an option. So long as Vinny goes, Williams is a possibility. But Snyder won't let him be more than just head coach.
I would be happy with him as coach if we got a good GM to go with him. Maybe we could get someone with ties to Tennessee that worked with GW in the past. That could be a nice combo.
__________________
Section 115 Row 23

“Goal line, goal line. I-left, tight wing, 70 chip on white.”

http://victorybeer.com/
celts32 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2009, 08:18 PM   #244
Uncle Phil
 
SmootSmack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 44,617
Re: Our next coach??

Quote:
Originally Posted by celts32 View Post
I would be happy with him as coach if we got a good GM to go with him. Maybe we could get someone with ties to Tennessee that worked with GW in the past. That could be a nice combo.
Like Floyd Reese? Whatever move Snyder makes it will be big. If he can't make the big move, maybe he just sticks with Zorn...but there are too many big options out there for him not to make a big move
__________________
You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You
SmootSmack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2009, 08:48 PM   #245
Uncle Phil
 
SmootSmack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 44,617
Re: Our next coach??

Jim Haslett's heavily-favored undefeated Orlando Tuskers were upset in the UFL Championship today by the Las Vegas Locomotives led by...Jim Fassell.
__________________
You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You
SmootSmack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2009, 12:08 AM   #246
The Starter
 
rbanerjee23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 2,341
Re: Our next coach??

Of course DS is going to hire a HC and then a GM...it makes too much bad sense for Snyder not to take that route lol
__________________
"Tough times don't last but tough people do"

-Mike Shanahan

HTTR
rbanerjee23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2009, 12:42 AM   #247
Registered User
 
SBXVII's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Virginia
Posts: 7,766
Re: Our next coach??

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmootSmack View Post
Jim Haslett's heavily-favored undefeated Orlando Tuskers were upset in the UFL Championship today by the Las Vegas Locomotives led by...Jim Fassell.
I know I'm supposed to be impressed but honestly I can't say that I am. I just get the feeling he would most likely win a bowl in college, no different then Spurrier, but struggle in the NFL like he did with the Giants and got canned.
SBXVII is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2009, 01:02 AM   #248
Registered User
 
SBXVII's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Virginia
Posts: 7,766
Re: Our next coach??

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattyk72 View Post
Marty simply isn't interested in coming back in any capacity. He's 66 years old and quite content in retirement. He's been steadfast in saying he's not coming back.

As for Shanahan I've never understood why people are so quick to discredit his success as simply due to Elway. Wasn't he responsible for assembling the team around him? At that point in his career Elway wasn't carrying the team on his back. If anything the success of Terrell Davis is what drove those SB winning teams.
My issues are not with that way of thinking. I actually liked what he did with his offenses, it was his lack of building a defense that bothers me. Blache is getting old and most likely will want to call Bingo also soon. If Shanahan is brought in as HC/president the questions remain who would be GM, and who would take over as DC? I think Shanahan will most likely bring in his son and maybe work to make whatever he was doing in Houston better considering their running is piss poor and not as good as ours right now. Their passing is better but not impressive.
SBXVII is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2009, 09:21 AM   #249
Uncle Phil
 
SmootSmack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 44,617
Re: Our next coach??

It's possible, probably not likely, but possible that Snyder could suggest to Shanahan that he keep someone like Morocco Brown to stay on as General Manager under Shanahan
__________________
You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You
SmootSmack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2009, 09:42 AM   #250
Playmaker
 
celts32's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Hackettstown NJ
Age: 43
Posts: 2,656
Re: Our next coach??

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmootSmack View Post
Like Floyd Reese? Whatever move Snyder makes it will be big. If he can't make the big move, maybe he just sticks with Zorn...but there are too many big options out there for him not to make a big move
Yes exactly...Reese and GW could be a nice combo.

I don't believe he can bring Vinny and Zorn back and sell all the season tickets.
__________________
Section 115 Row 23

“Goal line, goal line. I-left, tight wing, 70 chip on white.”

http://victorybeer.com/
celts32 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2009, 10:27 PM   #251
Registered User
 
SBXVII's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Virginia
Posts: 7,766
Re: Our next coach??

I decided I would look into the OC's who are on teams with winning records and started with the Saints. I went to their site and pulled up the coach's and clicked on their OC. Wouldn't you know it....he used to be with the Skins back in 2001.

New Orleans Saints - Pete Carmichael Jr
SBXVII is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2009, 10:36 PM   #252
Uncle Phil
 
SmootSmack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 44,617
Re: Our next coach??

Quote:
Originally Posted by SBXVII View Post
I decided I would look into the OC's who are on teams with winning records and started with the Saints. I went to their site and pulled up the coach's and clicked on their OC. Wouldn't you know it....he used to be with the Skins back in 2001.

New Orleans Saints - Pete Carmichael Jr
Yeah I think that's been brought up a few times here...it should be noted though that he's like Sherman Smith. Just now been named offensive coordinator and he doesn't really call the plays
__________________
You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You
SmootSmack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2009, 10:42 PM   #253
Playmaker
 
mlmdub130's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Woodbridge, VA
Age: 31
Posts: 3,159
Re: Our next coach??

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmootSmack View Post
Jim Haslett's heavily-favored undefeated Orlando Tuskers were upset in the UFL Championship today by the Las Vegas Locomotives led by...Jim Fassell.
who did what to the huh? they already had their championship and i missed it... damn, aren't there only like 6 teams?
__________________
"I don't think anybody should have regrets, especially me, ... You don't regret what you do in your life. If you do it, you do it for a reason."

ST21
mlmdub130 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2009, 10:44 PM   #254
The Starter
 
T.O.Killa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Berlin, MD
Posts: 2,028
Re: Our next coach??

After listening to the guy on NBC, I want Dungy.
T.O.Killa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2009, 11:03 PM   #255
Swearinger
 
GMScud's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Washington, DC
Age: 35
Posts: 12,623
Re: Our next coach??

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmootSmack View Post
Jim Haslett's heavily-favored undefeated Orlando Tuskers were upset in the UFL Championship today by the Las Vegas Locomotives led by...Jim Fassell.
What in the hell is a Tusker?
__________________
Insert witty signature here
GMScud is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:48 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site is not officially affiliated with the Washington Redskins or the NFL.
Page generated in 0.33790 seconds with 9 queries

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25