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Old 12-01-2009, 03:28 PM   #331
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It's a hot mess if you ask me.

I really don't know how the offense has managed to improve under these circumstances, and with all the injuries to boot.
Maybe the young guys don't realize just how bad it is.
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Old 12-01-2009, 04:09 PM   #332
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I'm so tired of this child ass bullshit set up that this team is running. I mean I can't believe one of the most storied teams in the NFL has this type of crap going on. I'd expect this non sense from a high school team. I'm kind of hoping that we really take a look at Charlie Weis and if he's hired bring in Romeo Crennel as DC. He would at least stop this throwing the ball 4 yards when it's 3-8 and push the ball downfield some more. I also think we need to go to a 3-4 with Orakpo and Carter coming off the edges.
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Old 12-01-2009, 04:10 PM   #333
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It's a hot mess if you ask me.

I really don't know how the offense has managed to improve under these circumstances, and with all the injuries to boot.
Well it has improved a litte bit but still way too many short passes. Also we still only scored 6 points last week. The offense had no where to go but up.
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Old 12-01-2009, 04:52 PM   #334
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Well it has improved a litte bit but still way too many short passes. Also we still only scored 6 points last week. The offense had no where to go but up.
The west coast offense is based on quick short passes
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Old 12-01-2009, 04:57 PM   #335
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The west coast offense is based on quick short passes
i hope to god we get rid of the failed conversion to the wco next year
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Old 12-01-2009, 05:10 PM   #336
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i hope to god we get rid of the failed conversion to the wco next year
We should go back to the Air Coryell type offense.
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We should go back to the Air Coryell type offense.
I can't stand the West Coast Offense, if that's what you call this system. Any system that says throw the ball for 5 yards, when you need 10 on 3rd down is stupid.
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Old 12-01-2009, 06:27 PM   #338
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I can't stand the West Coast Offense, if that's what you call this system. Any system that says throw the ball for 5 yards, when you need 10 on 3rd down is stupid.
The West Coast coaching philosophy essentially says, "don't get yourself into 3rd and 10", but we're not very good at the west coast element of the offense.
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But this doesn't explain why those plays failed. My recollection is that most of them failed because there was little protection from the O-line. At some point, a coach has to rely on the line to provide adequate protection -- especially when it is a final drive with little time remaining and you're behind. I am not sure I would blame these failures on playcalling.
There's a rush on the passer on the plays that work too.
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Hearing Cooley explain the process today he was almost laughing at one point.

I'm actually surprised that the process has gone as smoothly as it has, but honestly the fact that Sherman Lewis has little to no communication with Campbell is amazing to me.
I wonder if he either trusts Meidt and Zorn (I guess Smith too to a lesser extent) and doesn't feel like he needs to have direct communication with JC to instill the plan or what.

The diagram yesterday showed Meidt and Zorn doing the gameplan.. so maybe he feels like that and his conferencing with Meidt and Zorn is enough and JC doesn't need a third guy in his ear

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if he just has no interest in JC
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The West Coast coaching philosophy essentially says, "don't get yourself into 3rd and 10", but we're not very good at the west coast element of the offense.
Our gameplan seems to be "get to 3rd and 6 or 7"
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Our gameplan seems to be "get to 3rd and 6 or 7"
The funny thing is, when we were at our very best last season and even in the first two games of this season, our offense would avoid third downs altogether. Just pick it up on first or second.

The last 9 games, we're in third down on basically every third play, and it's kind of funny, and kind of tragic. Thing is, we've actually gotten better on third downs in the process, and the points are coming.
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There's a rush on the passer on the plays that work too.
exactly.

Also, when it was just Zorn calling the plays, I gave him a little nod, cuz D's "knew the book on him" and so they maybe could tee off some, but now, you would have to say that they can't really know which coach/advisor/other random space alien is going to be calling any specific play and yet the times where Zorn makes the call just seem to fail. It's a shame, you work your whole life and dream of being a playcaller, and then you get the opportunity, that's the kinda guy and scenario everyone roots for. To have it blow up like it has, well, it's just a bummer of a situation for him and for the team.
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Old 12-01-2009, 06:53 PM   #344
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It's a hot mess if you ask me.

I really don't know how the offense has managed to improve under these circumstances, and with all the injuries to boot.
It might say that stripping Zorn was the right call.

I also agree on the earlier point about Zorn shouldn't be a QB Coach during the game.. unless something is grossly off you're just messing up the QB's flow/rhythm, he shouldn't (or shouldn't have to, pick one) do that

Zorn can't be QB coach and HC and do everything within 2 years.. that being said I'm kind of glad he wasn't the OC.. wonder how long he would've lasted though if he was only OC
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The west coast offense is based on quick short passes
That's why you mold it to allow for vertical threats as well. It's more about quick than just short.. but often that's your most open guy that soon into the play.
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