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Old 12-09-2009, 09:50 AM   #616
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4 more games. Simply 4 more games. Then open season starts for the Skins.
Zorn may be fired within a few hours after the last game, but I doubt we have a new coach before the superbowl.
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Old 12-09-2009, 09:52 AM   #617
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How bout Wade Phillips as DC?...lol
not really that funny. he is another, in a long line of pretty good coordinators. but not so hot running the entire show
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Old 12-09-2009, 09:54 AM   #618
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Wade is an extremely talented DC, in fact the only reason not to bring him here is the ties to Dallas. I don't want any more Cowboy re-treads, very few do well here. (I would take Bill Parcells, but I see him as a mercenary not an ex-Cowboy/Giant coach)
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Old 12-09-2009, 11:58 AM   #619
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Scout.com: Cleveland Browns Organization Profile

Rumor: Cowher Won't Wind up in Carolina
by Barry McBride of theOBR.com, December 9, 2009 at 8:41am ET

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Itís about that time of year, isnít it?


As the off-season nears, Browns and other fans are often regaled by tales of how this quarterback or that coach has bought/sold a house in town, which therefore logically means that heís headed into/leaving town. Which, of course, will save the moribund Cleveland Browns franchise.


One guy who has been mentioned in those real estate rumors in the past is ex-Browns and ex-Steelers coach Bill Cowher. "The Chin" appeared on radar last year as word spread that he had put in a bid for a house in Strongsville, Ohio. Cowher is currently a football analyst with CBS Sports.


Speculation is the the large bags of gold hand-delivered to Cowherís home daily by CBS executives might be replaced by even larger bags of NFL team gold this off-season when the Steelers coach returns to the sidelines.
Here's where real estate comes in: A lot of the speculation has Cowher landing in Carolina to coach the Panthers because it's somewhat close to where Cowher lives now. His daughter also goes to school in Carolina.


For a lot of folks, thatís enough. Cowher lives in Carolina, heís going to coach the Panthers. Game, set, match.


Since I donít think a single real estate-based rumor has proven out in the ten years we've been writing Browns news items for the OBR, youíll pardon our skepticism about this line of analysis.


Joining us in throwing cold water on the notion that Cowher is pre-destined to wind up in Carolina is Darin Gantt of the Herald-Enquirer, who points out that Panthers owner Bill Richardson isnít married to the notion of hiring a big-name coach. Ganttís analysis is that Cowher is wrong for the Panthersí economics, current roster and management structure.



For me, the kicker is that Panthers owner Bill Richardson still remembers the George Seifert experiment, when the Panthers attempted to build around an expensive, control-oriented head coach.


Come on. Is that all? But itís an easy commute from where he currently lives!


Weíve been saying Cowher is in play for the Browns, and remains in play, regardless of where his daughter goes to college. Don't write this one off yet.
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Old 12-09-2009, 12:02 PM   #620
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I think that should be more like speculation that he won't end up in Carolina. I would think Carolina, Cleveland, and Houston are the most likely places for him.

If he does end up in Carolina, it would probably make Hurney expendable. Wonder if we should go after him then? He has ties to the area and the team.
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I think that should be more like speculation that he won't end up in Carolina. I would think Carolina, Cleveland, and Houston are the most likely places for him.

If he does end up in Carolina, it would probably make Hurney expendable. Wonder if we should go after him then? He has ties to the area and the team.
Why would Cowher want to coach in houston?
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Why would Cowher want to coach in houston?
houston has a great qb and good talent...they just need to get someone that kicks them in to winning
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Old 12-09-2009, 12:28 PM   #623
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houston has a great qb and good talent...they just need to get someone that kicks them in to winning
matt schuab is not a great qb by any definition of the term i've ever seen. its also houston. maybe its just because they've always sucked or been mediocre, but i cant see why any coach would want to go there, given the other options out there.
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Zorn may be fired within a few hours after the last game, but I doubt we have a new coach before the superbowl.
Another month long search? How do you see that playing out? Let's assume the Colts and Saints make it to the SB? Is there an assistant you see Snyder waiting out like he did with Spags?
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matt schuab is not a great qb by any definition of the term i've ever seen. its also houston. maybe its just because they've always sucked or been mediocre, but i cant see why any coach would want to go there, given the other options out there.
McNair is known as a very good owner to work for.. Rabid fan base, good talent base, the opportunity to really BE the face of the franchise's success. In Pittsburgh, Cowher's legacy will always be in the shadow of Rooney and Noll. If he succeeds in Houston he will be a God there.
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Zorn may be fired within a few hours after the last game, but I doubt we have a new coach before the superbowl.
If Shanahan is the guy why would they wait?
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Why would Cowher want to coach in houston?
Good young talent and an owner willing to spend money and step out of the way
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Old 12-09-2009, 01:07 PM   #628
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Another month long search? How do you see that playing out? Let's assume the Colts and Saints make it to the SB? Is there an assistant you see Snyder waiting out like he did with Spags?
Well, there's a couple reasons I think it will take a while. First and foremost is Dallas. All of the HCs that Snyder would be interested in will want to wait and see whether or not Jones fires the pillsbury dough boy whenever the cowboys season ends. These coaches may not necessarily be interested in the job, but they'll atleast want to feign interest to leverage more money, power, etc. in their negotations with other teams. If Dallas somehow misses the playoffs and Wade is fired right after the season ends, then I can see things progressing much more quickly.

Secondly, due to a number of factors, I think its unlikely that Snyder will be able to secure any of his top choices to be our next coach. Given the recent performance of the 2008 draft class, the continued improvement Orakpo and Barnes, and the overall improvement of the offense since Sherman Lewis was brought in, I think Snyder keeps Cerrato around. And while this will upset most fans, Cerrato appears to have done a pretty good job running the show (atleast by the standards we're used to around here). With Cerrato arround, none of the premier guys will want to come here. Secondly, I really don't think this job is as attractive to many HCs as some of us fans would think. If there was any HC out there who would view washington as an ideal job, it was Jon Gruden. Knowing full well the job would become available, he signed an extension with ESPN. Shanahan's rebuffed Snyder several times, and despite all the reports, I just cant envision him here. I really think he ends up in Chicago with Cutler. Cowher would be my favorite to land the job, but I know i'm just dreaming there. He's coaching in Carolina or Cleaveland. By all reports, Holmgren just wants a front office job, and his comments about how the organization's treated Zorn make it apparent he's not coming here. So, with all of those guys essentially out of the picture (in my view), who's left? No one, really. If Jeff Fisher's fired in Tennessee, I could see Snyder bringing him in, but otherwise, i forsee a long, drawn-out coaching search, much like the one we had after Gibbs stepped down.

In the end, I think our head coach will be Gregg Williams, Jerry Gray, Charlie Weiss, Jim Fassel, Mooch, or a coordinator from one of the Superbowl teams.
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If Shanahan is the guy why would they wait?
Because I don't think Shanahan's the guy. If any of the rumors we've been hearing are true, I think Shanahan's really just playing along with Snyder to help him get more money or control in another job. Houston would make the most sense, but my gut tells me he winds up in Chicago... although i think Dallas is a likely destination as well.
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McNair is known as a very good owner to work for.. Rabid fan base, good talent base, the opportunity to really BE the face of the franchise's success. In Pittsburgh, Cowher's legacy will always be in the shadow of Rooney and Noll. If he succeeds in Houston he will be a God there.
I get why the job itself could be viewed as attractive, but i just can't see Cowher going there. It just doesn't seem like the right "fit" to me. Warm weather, retractable roof... i dont know what it is. I just cant see it.
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