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Old 11-10-2009, 01:58 AM   #91
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Re: The D. Hall incident

Hall should spend more time concentrating about things happening on the field. He should have NEVER been on that sideline. As others have said he seeks drama and feeds his own agenda above the team. Fire him.
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Old 11-10-2009, 07:58 AM   #92
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I dont think anything will happen to the atl coaches,were getting no respect and no calls this yr.Did the league ever say what the rule is on that fair catch ARE dropped? this game and the last game there were 2 very late 5 yrds out of bounds tackles on our guys with no call
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Old 11-10-2009, 08:51 AM   #93
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Although after seeing the game and the replay of the event, it appears that Mike Smith was way out of line. He should have never been involved to begin with. Wasn't it Roger Goodell who said he would hold "coaches and executives to a higher standard." I am curious to see how serious he was with that statement. Smith should be held accountable to a certain degree.

But the devils advocate in me also thinks that the incident would never have gotten that much out of hand if Hall would have stayed away from the sideline. He really had no business running in there like that.

Yes, you can argue that Hall was "watching out for his team mate", trying to pull him out of there. But at the end of the day, if anything would have happened to Landry after that hit, it would be the leagues repsonsibility, not Halls.

When Hall charged into that sideline, that was the match, Landrys hit was the kerosene.

Keep those 2 apart, there is no fire.
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Old 11-10-2009, 08:54 AM   #94
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Hall was chasing down the play and ended up on the sideline, it's not like he just ran over there at some random time in the game.
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Old 11-10-2009, 09:00 AM   #95
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Hall should spend more time concentrating about things happening on the field. He should have NEVER been on that sideline. As others have said he seeks drama and feeds his own agenda above the team. Fire him.
Really? So he shouldn't have been running towards the QB with the ball?
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Dude you're siding with another team's fan against your own team? Turn in your card.
oh please. so we can't call out our own guys when they act like little bitches? i don't blame smith cause he was defending his own guy. if that happened to jc and zorn grabbed another teams player and talked some shit everyone would be on zorn's jock.
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oh please. so we can't call out our own guys when they act like little bitches? i don't blame smith cause he was defending his own guy. if that happened to jc and zorn grabbed another teams player and talked some shit everyone would be on zorn's jock.
If Mike Smith was "defending" Matt Ryan then why did he go after Hall? Your way of thinking is just like Goodell, hold the coaches to a different standard than you hold players. I think Zorn would know better than not to act the way Mike Smith did. Do you think Joe Gibbs would do what Mike Smith did?

I am by no means defending Hall, and I'm sure he is to be blame with what happened as well. What upsets me is that everyone, including Redskins fans, like to pretend that the ATL bench was completely innocent. For all I care, the league can fine and/or suspend Hall, but Mike Smith and the other coach that was involved in the incident should be fined and/or suspended.
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If Mike Smith was "defending" Matt Ryan then why did he go after Hall? Your way of thinking is just like Goodell, hold the coaches to a different standard than you hold players. I think Zorn would know better than not to act the way Mike Smith did. Do you think Joe Gibbs would do what Mike Smith did?

I am by no means defending Hall, and I'm sure he is to be blame with what happened as well. What upsets me is that everyone, including Redskins fans, like to pretend that the ATL bench was completely innocent. For all I care, the league can fine and/or suspend Hall, but Mike Smith and the other coach that was involved in the incident should be fined and/or suspended.
It's baffling really how some seem to only be blaming Hall and are ok with Mike Smith as a coach who did nothing but add fuel to the fire. Amazing.
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I'm sure when they all started pushing most players thought it would be done as fast as it started. When it continued the team came to help him out and then the D line came running in to help Hall. This has nothing to do with our locker room.
Once the incident starting getting ugly our guys went over. I agree this whole idea that our guys "didn't care" is garbage.
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It's baffling really how some seem to only be blaming Hall and are ok with Mike Smith as a coach who did nothing but add fuel to the fire. Amazing.
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It's baffling really how some seem to only be blaming Hall and are ok with Mike Smith as a coach who did nothing but add fuel to the fire. Amazing.
Yes. D.Hall deserves some blame but Smith was way over the top of what is acceptable for coaches. Smith came close to a Woody Hayes moment.
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When Hall charged into that sideline, that was the match, Landrys hit was the kerosene.
you have to watch the replay and keep your eye on hall before the hit. hall was chasing down the play, running hard. he was already on the sideline before the ish hit the fan. he never ran over or onto the falcons sideline.
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Old 11-10-2009, 11:56 AM   #103
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Heres an interesting observation from Jerome Bettis off SI.COM

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I see how the scuffle between Atlanta and Washington started. Matt Ryan got hit a little late on the sideline, and when you see that happen to the leader of your team you start thinking all of the worst things. No other single player has a bigger part in whether you win or lose. I know how much it scares you as a player, and so you want to retaliate. I get that. It's going to happen. Coaches understand that.

But you're entering a danger zone when you get involved as a coach, Mike Smith. Think about this in terms of war. When you see your general go to the line, all hands are on deck. Smith got into the fray and every single Falcon was there in a heartbeat. Fine. But what happens next time? All of a sudden, it's in the head of every one of those Atlanta players: When someone crosses our sideline or touches our quarterback late, it's on. And it can't be that simple. I don't think Smith should be punished, per se, but he needs to come out and say he went too far before his own players get the wrong idea.
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Heres an interesting observation from Jerome Bettis off SI.COM



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I agree with Bettis, however I think the NFL should punish Smith. When he was asked about the situation, he flat out lied and made excuse for what happened. He should follow Bettis advice:

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I don't think Smith should be punished, per se, but he needs to come out and say he went too far before his own players get the wrong idea.

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If Mike Smith was "defending" Matt Ryan then why did he go after Hall? Your way of thinking is just like Goodell, hold the coaches to a different standard than you hold players. I think Zorn would know better than not to act the way Mike Smith did. Do you think Joe Gibbs would do what Mike Smith did?

I am by no means defending Hall, and I'm sure he is to be blame with what happened as well. What upsets me is that everyone, including Redskins fans, like to pretend that the ATL bench was completely innocent. For all I care, the league can fine and/or suspend Hall, but Mike Smith and the other coach that was involved in the incident should be fined and/or suspended.
If you watch the tape Hall WALKED TOWARDS the Atl. bench talking smack with #51 AFTER Landry hit Ryan.....then the fight began. If Hall would've just done what Landry did then nothing would've happened.
I'm over it but when you're getting your ass beat and you're on a 2-6 team that can't tackle then shut up and play ball. Now Hall is talking about fighting the coach in the off season and talking about calling Goddell. Don't try and fight their team or the coach in the off season, get an INT, or knock the crap out of Michael Turner. Instead you cry like a baby w/out it's milk bottle.
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