Campbell Comparables

skinsfan69 · 11-10-2009, 01:47 PM

On a side note I think it's time for both parties to move on. I really wish JC well. He can play in the NFL if he's in the right offense and has the players around him. He's a high character stand up guy and hopefully he will find some stability w/ another team.

Dirtbag59 · 11-10-2009, 01:49 PM

I use to think that Josh Freeman was going to be comprable to Campbell but thats already starting to be proven wrong.

The Goat · 11-10-2009, 02:11 PM

I was a big JC advocate over the last two seasons. My thinking was Zorn's QB-coach experience would pay huge dividends and Jason would take a big leap forward in decision-making and accuracy. I've also been a realist about our "league-worst" FO situation and the atrocious roster decisions regarding the oline. While it's real tempting to look and say Jason is getting killed out there and doesn't have much to work with, I'm focused on games 2 thru 4 when the line was better intact and we were playing the other really bad teams in football. I haven't seen any leadership from Jason in good, or bad, situations. Our offense is disgustingly sloppy regardless of who's healthy or what factors are involved, from Moss to Sellers to CP it's just a shit-show out there.

Now I'm well aware the discipline thing starts at the top. "Attitude reflect leadership" as they say, and the leadership which should start within the FO (NOT THE OWNER, but in our sad case it's one and the same) falls somewhere between non-existent and barely detectable at Redskins Park. Again the weird little toady Snyder insists on having as the face of the franchise utterly lacks inter-personal skills, as admitted even by Snyder's biggest apologists here and elsewhere, and therefor nobody expects anything from Cerrato in the leadership dept. But Jason is the guy holding the ball on game-day, he's the only guy left to demand a strong performance and solid execution from the guys surrounding him (don't tell me that should be Zorn's job, Snyder hired the gee-wiz coach precisely because Zorn isn't a fiery personality). I don't think anyone can honestly argue Jason has proven to be a leader. It has nothing to do w/ sacks or knock-downs or any other QB stat so far as I can tell. Have you ever seen Jason get into Moss', Seller's, or any of his teammates face after they gave up on a play or killed the 3rd down conversion? Never. On the sidelines. On the way to the locker room. Never. I see Brady (who I don't even like) do it. I see Peyton do it on the effing field in full view of everyone watching. I see Brees do it but you can always see a look of encouragement there too which I find exceptional. I expected to see it from Jason this year, but it's not gonna happen. He's not a leader and therefor I don't really see his numbers as important...the results will never be there.

rbanerjee23 · 11-10-2009, 02:17 PM

Campbell will never win a super bowl but he is not the main reason for this team messing up as bad as it has.

Chico23231 · 11-10-2009, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

Campbell will never win a super bowl but he is not the main reason for this team messing up as bad as it has.

I would def agree with him not being the main problem, that would be Vinny.

GTripp0012 · 11-10-2009, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

I just hope that we haven't damaged JC and made him permanently gun shy like what happened to Carr.

You've inspired (sort of) my new sig.

Note that I'm not saying that new team can't be the 2010 Redskins. I just mean change in the most abstract sense.

And if he does have David Carr disease, well, a bunch of people are waiting in line to tell me "I told you so".

GTripp0012 · 11-10-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

I use to think that Josh Freeman was going to be comprable to Campbell but thats already starting to be proven wrong.

Nominated for conclusion jump of the week (CJOW for the acronymn fans among us).

Dirtbag59 · 11-10-2009, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Nominated for conclusion jump of the week (CJOW for the acronymn fans among us).

Lol, which conclusion? Freeman being good, or Freeman being like soup? Because if it's the latter I got that part from Freemans draft profile on NFL.com and ran with it.

Lotus · 11-10-2009, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Lol, which conclusion? Freeman being good, or Freeman being like soup? Because if it's the latter I got that part from Freemans draft profile on NFL.com and ran with it.

Dirtbag, where is your sig from? I've forgotten where I saw that "are belong to us" phrase. Is that from Space Invaders?

firstdown · 11-10-2009, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

I just hope that we haven't damaged JC and made him permanently gun shy like what happened to Carr.

Well if that is the case then he is not a winner or a QB that should be a starter. Never hear this stuff said about big Ben who by the way has been sacked 215 times in 5 yrs to JC's 91 and if you just look at the past three yrs JC has 84 and Ben 116.

FRPLG · 11-10-2009, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

Dirtbag, where is your sig from? I've forgotten where I saw that "are belong to us" phrase. Is that from Space Invaders?

All your base are belong to us - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Lotus · 11-10-2009, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

All your base are belong to us - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Cool. Thanks!

Dirtbag59 · 11-10-2009, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

Cool. Thanks!

Here's a reenactment/dub of the intro. It's one thing to read it, but it's even funnier to hear it out loud.

T.O.Killa · 11-10-2009, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

On a side note I think it's time for both parties to move on. I really wish JC well. He can play in the NFL if he's in the right offense and has the players around him. He's a high character stand up guy and hopefully he will find some stability w/ another team.

Yeah give him the Hogs, and the 2000 Ravens defense or the 1985 Bears Defense and he should be able to guide us right to the playoffs.

davy · 11-10-2009, 06:24 PM

Speaking of comparables...

The only difference between Campbell and a sack of shit is that the sack of shit reacts quicker when you kick it.

Have I gone too far?

11-10-2009, 01:47 PM	#31
skinsfan69 Franchise Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA. Posts: 8,126	Re: Campbell Comparables On a side note I think it's time for both parties to move on. I really wish JC well. He can play in the NFL if he's in the right offense and has the players around him. He's a high character stand up guy and hopefully he will find some stability w/ another team.

11-10-2009, 01:49 PM	#32
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 27 Posts: 13,978	Re: Campbell Comparables I use to think that Josh Freeman was going to be comprable to Campbell but thats already starting to be proven wrong. __________________ Flacco is 1337 Fanclub President

11-10-2009, 02:11 PM	#33
The Goat Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,044	Re: Campbell Comparables I was a big JC advocate over the last two seasons. My thinking was Zorn's QB-coach experience would pay huge dividends and Jason would take a big leap forward in decision-making and accuracy. I've also been a realist about our "league-worst" FO situation and the atrocious roster decisions regarding the oline. While it's real tempting to look and say Jason is getting killed out there and doesn't have much to work with, I'm focused on games 2 thru 4 when the line was better intact and we were playing the other really bad teams in football. I haven't seen any leadership from Jason in good, or bad, situations. Our offense is disgustingly sloppy regardless of who's healthy or what factors are involved, from Moss to Sellers to CP it's just a shit-show out there. Now I'm well aware the discipline thing starts at the top. "Attitude reflect leadership" as they say, and the leadership which should start within the FO (NOT THE OWNER, but in our sad case it's one and the same) falls somewhere between non-existent and barely detectable at Redskins Park. Again the weird little toady Snyder insists on having as the face of the franchise utterly lacks inter-personal skills, as admitted even by Snyder's biggest apologists here and elsewhere, and therefor nobody expects anything from Cerrato in the leadership dept. But Jason is the guy holding the ball on game-day, he's the only guy left to demand a strong performance and solid execution from the guys surrounding him (don't tell me that should be Zorn's job, Snyder hired the gee-wiz coach precisely because Zorn isn't a fiery personality). I don't think anyone can honestly argue Jason has proven to be a leader. It has nothing to do w/ sacks or knock-downs or any other QB stat so far as I can tell. Have you ever seen Jason get into Moss', Seller's, or any of his teammates face after they gave up on a play or killed the 3rd down conversion? Never. On the sidelines. On the way to the locker room. Never. I see Brady (who I don't even like) do it. I see Peyton do it on the effing field in full view of everyone watching. I see Brees do it but you can always see a look of encouragement there too which I find exceptional. I expected to see it from Jason this year, but it's not gonna happen. He's not a leader and therefor I don't really see his numbers as important...the results will never be there. __________________ Sometimes you eat the bear, and sometimes he eats you.

11-10-2009, 02:17 PM	#34
rbanerjee23 The Starter Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,320	Re: Campbell Comparables Campbell will never win a super bowl but he is not the main reason for this team messing up as bad as it has. __________________ "Tough times don't last but tough people do" -Mike Shanahan HTTR

11-10-2009, 06:24 PM	#45
davy Impact Rookie Join Date: May 2004 Location: England Posts: 677	Re: Campbell Comparables Speaking of comparables... The only difference between Campbell and a sack of shit is that the sack of shit reacts quicker when you kick it. Have I gone too far? __________________ “Don't ask me what I think of you, I might not give the answer that you want me to.”

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