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Old 11-29-2009, 07:24 PM   #121
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Williams isn't a bad pick up but lets be real. Is this guy going to be able to be a 16 game starter? Probably not. I think he may be a nice back up but that's it. We're still going to need a LT, RG and RT.
Yep, but you might as well add a center to that list.
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Old 11-29-2009, 07:28 PM   #122
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Well I hope we can get away with a 2nd round RT. So we can draft a first round QB. Levi Jones is going to have to play better for that to happen.
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Old 11-30-2009, 12:54 AM   #123
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Yep, but you might as well add a center to that list.
And LG if the plan is to be a dominant line. Dockery will never be an above average player again.

If the plan is to be an adequate line, you already have pieces to work with in Rinehart, Williams, and perhaps Heyer. But the team needs to add a tackle, if not two, and let go of the dead weight.
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Williams isn't a bad pick up but lets be real. Is this guy going to be able to be a 16 game starter? Probably not. I think he may be a nice back up but that's it. We're still going to need a LT, RG and RT.
why don't you think he can be a starting center in this league?
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Yep, but you might as well add a center to that list.
my thoughts exactly, and while we're at it, why not shore up LG...we could basically use an entirely new offensive line lol
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Realistically we're not going to be able to replace the entire OL in one offseason. We're definitely looking at new starters at RG and RT. Maybe Jones can hold down the LT spot as a stop gap measure. I think you can get by with Dock and Rabach (assuming you can re-sign him to a deal that makes sense).
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Old 11-30-2009, 10:14 AM   #127
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Realistically we're not going to be able to replace the entire OL in one offseason. We're definitely looking at new starters at RG and RT. Maybe Jones can hold down the LT spot as a stop gap measure. I think you can get by with Dock and Rabach (assuming you can re-sign him to a deal that makes sense).
I agree Maty. I am hoping that we can get away with the people we have at RG. Draft a starting RT in the second and a project RG in the forth. That means QB in the first. Not sure what can be done in free agency, if there is no cap everyone becomes a restricted free agent.
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Realistically we're not going to be able to replace the entire OL in one offseason. We're definitely looking at new starters at RG and RT. Maybe Jones can hold down the LT spot as a stop gap measure. I think you can get by with Dock and Rabach (assuming you can re-sign him to a deal that makes sense).
Given the bad luck we've had with o-linemen picked up in the later rounds and as UFAs, I think we need to pick up a first round tackle next year. Health-wise, Jones may be a better options for the Redskins than Samuels (given that Samuels is one strong hit from long term injury), and we could do what the Ravens did with Oher and stick our first-round rookie tackle at RT. Hopefully Williams can pan out at RG and with a healthy/older/wiser Rhinehart we can be set at that position.
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Old 11-30-2009, 11:17 AM   #129
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why don't you think he can be a starting center in this league?
I hope he turnes out to be an effective 10 year starter for us cause god knows we need to find a diamond in the rough. But I just hope they're not counting on an undrafted free agent to be a starter.
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I hope he turnes out to be an effective 10 year starter for us cause god knows we need to find a diamond in the rough. But I just hope they're not counting on an undrafted free agent to be a starter.
Isn't that what we do? It's the Redskin way. How do you think our 0-line got so formidable?
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I hope he turnes out to be an effective 10 year starter for us cause god knows we need to find a diamond in the rough. But I just hope they're not counting on an undrafted free agent to be a starter.
He could be the next Joe Jacoby!

In all seriousness though, it didn't sound like Zorn was too thrilled with Edwin Williams' performance yesterday and Mike Williams could be back in the starting lineup next week.
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Our running game looks halfway decent now that Portis isn't playing. So maybe Bugel is doing his job with these UDFAs on the line. Maybe Portis...no, I don't even want to talk about the guy. I just wish we had Champ Bailey back, but I can wish forever and it won't happen. Right now I'm wishing that we've seen the last of Vinny, but we might have to see both of them next year and hope that Portis doesn't go back into his sabotage mode. He tried his best to undermine Jim Zorn when I was a Zorn fan. Ended up that Zorn himself did a good job of that.
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Old 11-30-2009, 02:14 PM   #133
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Re: Let's Talk Levi Jones and Offensive Line

Is anyone else beginning to see a reason why Mike Williams was out of the NFL for several years and why none of the other 31 teams spent the summer months beating down Levi Jones' door to come and play for them?


The title of this thread invites discussion of the offensive line and so...


Let me assume for a moment that Chris Samuels actually retires at the end of this year. I don't wish that on him, but assume that for the moment.


Look at the other offensive linemen on this roster. Which of them would qualify under the following heading :

"Starter For More Than Half The Teams In The NFL"

Maybe Dockery. Maybe not...

Maybe Thomas if he recovers fully. Maybe not...


I think that's the list. Even in an uncapped year, the rejuvenation of the OL will be a most difficult task.
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Old 11-30-2009, 02:35 PM   #134
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He could be the next Joe Jacoby!

In all seriousness though, it didn't sound like Zorn was too thrilled with Edwin Williams' performance yesterday and Mike Williams could be back in the starting lineup next week.
what do we do if we aren't to thrilled with Zorn's performance?
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Old 11-30-2009, 05:31 PM   #135
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Turns out Edwin didn't play good enough..

Redskins Insider - Mike Williams may replace Edwin Williams
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