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BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

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Old 12-17-2009, 11:35 AM   #226
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

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Holmgren?

Holmgren is only looking for a GM position, not HC. Shanahan wants to be both. It has be Gruden.
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:35 AM   #227
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

I can't help but think the way the team's playing right now along with this positive news, that the Giants want to come here Monday night with the playoffs on the line.

I think we're gonna be fired up big time.
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:37 AM   #228
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

Just gotta chime in on this one. Awesome!!!!

(How sad is it that the biggest news in skins-land since JGG came back is that Vinny finally got the ax? But whatever. I'll take it!)
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:39 AM   #229
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

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thought this was interesting. Allen's draft history with Tampa
2008 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 20 Aqib Talib CB Kansas
2 58 Dexter Jackson WR Appalachian State
3 83 Jeremy Zuttah G Rutgers
4 115 Dre Moore DT Maryland
5 160 Josh Johnson QB San Diego
6 175 Geno Hayes OLB Florida State
7 238 Cory Boyd RB South Carolina

2007 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 4 Gaines Adams DE Clemson
2 35 Arron Sears G Tennessee
2 64 Sabby Piscitelli SAF Oregon State
3 68 Quincy Black LB New Mexico
4 106 Tanard Jackson FS Syracuse
5 141 Greg Peterson DT North Carolina Central
6 182 Adam Hayward LB Portland State
7 214 Chris Denman T Fresno State
7 245 Marcus Hamilton CB Virginia
7 246 Kenneth Darby RB Alabama

2006 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 23 Davin Joseph G Oklahoma
2 59 Jeremy Trueblood T Boston College
3 90 Maurice Stovall WR Notre Dame
4 122 Alan Zemaitis CB Penn State
5 156 Julian Jenkins DE Stanford
6 194 Bruce Gradkowski QB Toledo
6 202 T.J. Williams TE North Carolina State
7 235 Justin Phinisee CB Oregon
7 241 Charles Bennett DE Clemson
7 244 Tim Massaquoi TE Michigan

2005 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 5 Cadillac Williams RB Auburn
2 36 Barrett Ruud LB Nebraska
3 71 Alex Smith TE Stanford
3 91 Chris Colmer T North Carolina State
4 107 Dan Buenning G Wisconsin
5 141 Donte Nicholson DB Oklahoma
5 155 Larry Brackins -- Pearl River CC MS
6 178 Anthony Bryant DT Alabama
7 221 Rick Razzano RB Mississippi
7 225 Paris Warren WR Utah
7 231 Hamza Abdullah DB Washington State
7 253 J.R. Russell WR Louisville

2004 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 15 Michael Clayton WR Louisiana State
3 79 Marquis Cooper LB Washington
4 111 Will Allen SAF Ohio State
5 146 Jeb Terry G North Carolina
6 181 Nate Lawrie TE Yale
7 206 Mark Jones WR Tennessee
7 228 Casey Cramer RB Dartmouth
7 252 Lenny Williams CB Southern University
Looks like more misses than hits.
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:39 AM   #230
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I don't think Jason can take another system change
If it's a WCO the changes won't be significant.
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:40 AM   #231
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

Oh dear, another 10 years of misery to look forward to.
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:40 AM   #232
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

Great news!!! I met Allen while he was in Oakland and he is a great guy. People don't realize he also drafted Nnamdi Asomugha in Oakland.
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:41 AM   #233
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Looks like more misses than hits.
There are a lot of pics there though. Maybe I won't have so much down time during the draft from now on.
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:42 AM   #234
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

Allen and Gruden are very close (they watch football games together up here). But it's not like that's the only coach Allen has ties to
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:42 AM   #235
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I'm sure this has been suggested but Bruce Allen pretty much guarantee's Chuckie as our next head coach, right?
Not necessarily, but of course his name is going to be at the top of the rumor mill based on their relationship.
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:42 AM   #236
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Does the hiring of Bruce Allen as VP/GM makes the head coach job in Washington more appealing?

Is this a prelude to Gruden leaving the booth and coaching Washington.
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:47 AM   #237
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

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Originally Posted by dmek25 View Post
thought this was interesting. Allen's draft history with Tampa
2008 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 20 Aqib Talib CB Kansas
2 58 Dexter Jackson WR Appalachian State
3 83 Jeremy Zuttah G Rutgers
4 115 Dre Moore DT Maryland
5 160 Josh Johnson QB San Diego
6 175 Geno Hayes OLB Florida State
7 238 Cory Boyd RB South Carolina

2007 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 4 Gaines Adams DE Clemson
2 35 Arron Sears G Tennessee
2 64 Sabby Piscitelli SAF Oregon State
3 68 Quincy Black LB New Mexico
4 106 Tanard Jackson FS Syracuse
5 141 Greg Peterson DT North Carolina Central
6 182 Adam Hayward LB Portland State
7 214 Chris Denman T Fresno State
7 245 Marcus Hamilton CB Virginia
7 246 Kenneth Darby RB Alabama

2006 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 23 Davin Joseph G Oklahoma
2 59 Jeremy Trueblood T Boston College
3 90 Maurice Stovall WR Notre Dame
4 122 Alan Zemaitis CB Penn State
5 156 Julian Jenkins DE Stanford
6 194 Bruce Gradkowski QB Toledo
6 202 T.J. Williams TE North Carolina State
7 235 Justin Phinisee CB Oregon
7 241 Charles Bennett DE Clemson
7 244 Tim Massaquoi TE Michigan

2005 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 5 Cadillac Williams RB Auburn
2 36 Barrett Ruud LB Nebraska
3 71 Alex Smith TE Stanford
3 91 Chris Colmer T North Carolina State
4 107 Dan Buenning G Wisconsin
5 141 Donte Nicholson DB Oklahoma
5 155 Larry Brackins -- Pearl River CC MS
6 178 Anthony Bryant DT Alabama
7 221 Rick Razzano RB Mississippi
7 225 Paris Warren WR Utah
7 231 Hamza Abdullah DB Washington State
7 253 J.R. Russell WR Louisville

2004 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 15 Michael Clayton WR Louisiana State
3 79 Marquis Cooper LB Washington
4 111 Will Allen SAF Ohio State
5 146 Jeb Terry G North Carolina
6 181 Nate Lawrie TE Yale
7 206 Mark Jones WR Tennessee
7 228 Casey Cramer RB Dartmouth
7 252 Lenny Williams CB Southern University
Not very good IMO. Gaines Adams turned out to be pure bust as did Michael Clayton. Williams is a stud but he just can't stay healthy. Josh Johnson is simply awful. Talib has serious character issues.
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:49 AM   #238
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Not very good IMO. Gaines Adams turned out to be pure bust as did Michael Clayton. Williams is a stud but he just can't stay healthy. Josh Johnson is simply awful. Talib has serious character issues.
I think alot has to do with the scouting involved. I don't know how the TB organization was set up, but I have always thought our scouts were top notch.

Time will tell.
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:51 AM   #239
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Here we go. So let's parse through every single player drafted under Allen and come to conclusions about his qualifications.
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Not very good IMO. Gaines Adams turned out to be pure bust as did Michael Clayton. Williams is a stud but he just can't stay healthy. Josh Johnson is simply awful. Talib has serious character issues.
Is this the same Talib that picked off Jason Campbell 3 times?

I don't expect everyone to agree with Allen's hiring. But come on, Vinny was terrible in certain aspects and Allen has had success as a general manager. At least let the guy come in and start working before you start pissing all over him.
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